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MarillionFan
24th February 2011, 14:21
Was what a client sprung on me earlier.

We have had a chat and think the work you have to date as been excellent and would like to offer you a permanent role.

Awkward silence fell as I said 'That's nice'

'I do have more than one contract at the moment and would not be able to consider anything for
obvious contractual reasons'

'it's a good package'

'Cool. But no. Sorry'

'Oh well in six months when your free then there's a role waiting'

'Gee thanks'

Very odd.

Mich the Tester
24th February 2011, 14:21
:suicide:

suityou01
24th February 2011, 14:23
Was what a client sprung on me earlier.

We have had a chat and think the work you have to date as been excellent and would like to offer you a permanent role.

Awkward silence fell as I said 'That's nice'

'I do have more than one contract at the moment and would not be able to consider anything for
obvious contractual reasons'

'it's a good package'

'Cool. But no. Sorry'

'Oh well in six months when your free then there's a role waiting'

'Gee thanks'

Very odd.

Is this the same client you told us last night you had to visit as your code had stopped working. :rolleyes:

I smell bullshit. :winker:

MarillionFan
24th February 2011, 14:26
Is this the same client you told us last night you had to visit as your code had stopped working. :rolleyes:

I smell bulltulip. :winker:

Dba had set password to
expire

ChrisPackit
24th February 2011, 15:54
Was what a client sprung on me earlier.

We have had a chat and think the work you have to date as been excellent and would like to offer you a permanent role.

Awkward silence fell as I said 'That's nice'

'I do have more than one contract at the moment and would not be able to consider anything for
obvious contractual reasons'

'it's a good package'

'Cool. But no. Sorry'

'Oh well in six months when your free then there's a role waiting'

'Gee thanks'

Very odd.


I love how the permie managers think they are doing you a big favour by offering the poor contractor a permie role.

Toothless simpletons :tongue

Fred Bloggs
24th February 2011, 16:29
I love how the permie managers think they are doing you a big favour by offering the poor contractor a permie role.

Toothless simpletons :tongueWHS, I had one this week "We're paying £65k a year, plus........ a car!". Bloggs replies - "I'm billing 220 days a year at £650 a day, do the sums." Harsh but true.

Incognito
24th February 2011, 16:31
Was what a client sprung on me earlier.

We have had a chat and think the work you have to date as been excellent and would like to offer you a permanent role.

'it's a good package'



Did you have to provide your own mop and bucket?

AtW
24th February 2011, 16:39
Oh FFS, you contractors - it's a great complement saying that you are good enough to join glorious permiedom, if you are mad to decline it at least make it clear that you appreciate the offer. :eyes

MarillionFan
24th February 2011, 16:39
Did you have to provide your own mop and bucket?

No it wasn't a job at Suityous house.

doodab
24th February 2011, 17:29
WHS, I had one this week "We're paying £65k a year, plus........ a car!". Bloggs replies - "I'm billing 220 days a year at £650 a day, do the sums." Harsh but true.

When I left my one and only permie role for my first contract I had my bosses boss take me aside and say "do you mind if I ask what they are paying you cos we'd like to keep you and I can offer you quite a big raise"

So I told him and he said "That's more than I'm getting, so good luck!"

Fred Bloggs
24th February 2011, 17:38
Oh FFS, you contractors - it's a great complement saying that you are good enough to join glorious permiedom, if you are mad to decline it at least make it clear that you appreciate the offer. :eyesWhy?

KentPhilip
24th February 2011, 19:44
Why?

Because they are your client.
You should do all you can to butter up your client, because it raises the possibility of higher rates and better contracts.

On a related note, has anyone ever been offered a permie job that really did pay more than the contract equivalent? And did they turn it down because they preferred the freedom of contracting?

centurian
24th February 2011, 19:50
Every single ClientCo I've worked for has offered me a perm position. Every single one...

d000hg
24th February 2011, 21:11
WHS, I had one this week "We're paying £65k a year, plus........ a car!". Bloggs replies - "I'm billing 220 days a year at £650 a day, do the sums." Harsh but true.If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.

Fred Bloggs
25th February 2011, 07:42
If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.True, but it has for the last 8 years (7 contracts), I see little reason for things to change significantly. To be totally fair, where I am from, £65k is actually considered a mega salary.

MarillionFan
25th February 2011, 08:06
I left my last perm role at end of 2009 and was on 89k basic with 15% bonus and shares.

I would now only go back into perm for a very senior management or directors role.

I have a prelimnary offer for a role starting at the begin of 2012 in the USA. I plan to contract all this year and if all works out i plan to head off stateside
next year.

Time will tell.

jmo21
25th February 2011, 08:54
I love how the permie managers think they are doing you a big favour by offering the poor contractor a permie role.


I was thinking the exact same when I was reading the OP.

Spacecadet
25th February 2011, 09:04
If that's the way you think contracting works, billing full-time with no gaps, of course.

That is how it works! Since day 1 of my first contract almost 5 years ago I've had about 70 working days where I couldn't bill

2BIT
25th February 2011, 09:37
Oh FFS, you contractors - it's a great complement saying that you are good enough to join glorious permiedom, if you are mad to decline it at least make it clear that you appreciate the offer. :eyes

agreed, I was offered a perm role recently and wouldn't have dreamed of a) taking it or b) being rude or disparaging about the offer :ohwell

MarillionFan
25th February 2011, 09:52
agreed, I was offered a perm role recently and wouldn't have dreamed of a) taking it or b) being rude or disparaging about the offer :ohwell

Like a News of the World reporter I made my excuses and left.

suityou01
25th February 2011, 09:56
Like a News of the World reporter I made my excuses and left.

:spel Smacked him in the gob and stropped off out of it.

GreenLabel
25th February 2011, 09:56
Every single ClientCo I've worked for has offered me a perm position. Every single one...

Same here. Without fail.

Mich the Tester
25th February 2011, 09:57
permanent job \per"ma*nent job \
1 An appointment to work with 3 months employment security (until the next quarterly figures) and approximately one third of the income of a contractor
2 A turd which won't flush away