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Social Engineering through Capitalism

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    Social Engineering through Capitalism

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4785164.stm

    "The hardcore will not get it. This is for the decent, well-behaved young people," the chancellor told the BBC.

    So 25 quid for staying off the streets. This is Capitalism of the worst kind. Rather than address the causes of disaffection, TBs tory government would rather issue bribes. What next, £2 million to dob in a gang of criminals ?
    A hundred a month not to commit burglary, a thousand a month to not commit murder ? One hundred pounds to vote Labor ?

    What ever happened to principles and beliefs ?

    #2
    Interesting - it was spun on R4 this morning as a health thing. I.e. Pay the fat kids £12 per month but if said fat kid was from a 'low income' family then they get £25 per month for gym membership.

    I say get the fat pikey little fecks eating properly and out running thereby saving the money to pay Nigel Crisps pension...

    Older and ...well, just older!!

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      #3
      Why don't they give all kids when they reach 16 like £1 million to do whatever they like with. Give 'em a good start in life.
      Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
      threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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        #4
        Now then, ws reading somewhere

        Originally posted by threaded
        Why don't they give all kids when they reach 16 like £1 million to do whatever they like with. Give 'em a good start in life.

        might even have been on here, that all this income support/jobseekers allowance/benefits stuff should be stopped forthwith, give every family in the land a cash sum dependent on the number of children, and the families would have to survive on whatever they get. Of course if you want more money you go to work for someone and whatever you earn is taxed at 20%. Period.
        Does the panel think? Wrong question, what does the panel want to drivel on about and could this idea be included in their rambling?.
        Why not?

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          #5
          Indeed, there is a principle known as "carrot & stick". It's just that somewhere along the way these feckless buffoons lost the stick part.

          Probably some invertebrate decided it wasn't fair.
          If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.

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            #6
            This is the stupidist in a long line of incredibly stupid ideas from really stupid people!!! If you work hard, start a business, employee people and create wealth for the country you are taxed to oblivion and, as a further deterent to future entrepreneurialism (??) we are teaching kids that you can get something for nothing. And where the hell does the Government get off using our hard earned cash to give to some little barsteward who has been kind enough not to beat the crap out of a little old lady this week.

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              #7
              Another reason for hoi polloi to re-elect Labour in case another party does away with it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by wendigo100
                Another reason for hoi polloi to re-elect Labour in case another party does away with it.
                exactly what I was thinking, NL are canvasing already
                Your parents ruin the first half of your life and your kids ruin the second half

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                  #9
                  Why don't they give all kids when they reach 16 like £1 million to do whatever they like with. Give 'em a good start in life.
                  Well, except for the amounts involved, this is what one of Gordon's pet projects, the child trust fund, has been set up to do.

                  I've also heard it argued (can't remember by who) that all inheritance tax should be ear-marked to give everyone an equal amount of money at that age. i.e. instead of rich leaving money to their children, confiscate the lot (or a lot of it) and spread it amongst all children evenly.
                  Last edited by IR35 Avoider; 8 March 2006, 17:51.

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                    #10
                    25 quid for staying off the streets
                    As socialism goes, this is less damaging than most measures. Kids on the whole are not supposed to be working for a living, so state-sponsored pocket money doesn't create any perverse incentives. In some cases it will simply replace what parents would have given, so no net cost other than the inefficiency of routing the money via the government.

                    Adults have some control over their economic station, so socialism is more damaging when applied to them. Kids don't get to choose who they are born to, and don't have many choices to improve their lot in the short term, so socialism applied to them (whether state pocket money, state-sponsored education or state-sponsored health care) is more justifiable than for adults.

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