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Jog On
12th May 2011, 09:12
If you had the money would you pay for your child to be delivered privately or through the NHS?

Bearing in mind that you actively minimise your tax laibilities and all that - when it comes to actually making use of these state resources do you use them or spend some of the money you've saved on tax efficiency on getting it done privately?

Poll to follow...

ThomasSoerensen
12th May 2011, 09:17
You assume private birth costs money.

Last time I checked, letting the wife have 16 hours of privacy in the forest, cost nothing.

cailin maith
12th May 2011, 09:18
Have you something to tell us JogOn?

doodab
12th May 2011, 09:20
We did go with NHS. They were good. The prenatal care involved quite a bit of waiting room action though.

Jog On
12th May 2011, 09:20
Have you something to tell us JogOn?

possibly... nothing certain yet

russell
12th May 2011, 09:24
Given the NHS will be privatised soon you might be saved from this dilemma.

Jog On
12th May 2011, 09:25
Given the NHS will be privatised soon you might be saved from this dilemma.

In the next 8-9 months?

Benny
12th May 2011, 09:26
Think very carefully about using private for childbirth

If it all goes belly up (sic) and there are complications - the private hospital will transfer you to the nearest NHS for advanced treatment / consultants which takes time... and time during childbirth can mean the difference between a healthy child or a problem you will have to live with for the rest of your lives

So to me it makes sense to be in the NHS to start with

Trouble is you have to share the facilities with the local chav/immigrant population both of which are breeding at prodigious rates

HTH

russell
12th May 2011, 09:27
In the next 8-9 months?

Good point

:igmc:

PRC1964
12th May 2011, 09:29
Mrs PRC had a private room in an NHS hospital. So the birth part was all NHS but she didn't have to recover in a ward full of the great unwashed.

DimPrawn
12th May 2011, 09:30
When you say "go private" what exactly do you mean?

Very few of the standard private hospitals do childbirth, you have to use an NHS hospital, although you can opt and pay for a private room for about £100 at many of them.

If you mean a dedicated private delivery team in a state of the art private hospital with the best equipment, then there are a few, mostly in London and the SE obviously.

If anything goes wrong, they will rush you to an NHS hospital, they don't deal with it there, so that makes it more risky.

It works out costly, depending on what happens. I was told to put aside about £10K to cover worst case costs.

My advice, stick with the NHS on this one and keep your fingers crossed.

MarillionFan
12th May 2011, 09:33
Mrs PRC had a private room in an NHS hospital. So the birth part was all NHS but she didn't have to recover in a ward full of the great unwashed.

WHS. NHS, private room to keep away from the council estate proles.

Anyway, can you actually do private childbirth?

Jog On
12th May 2011, 09:33
Think very carefully about using private for childbirth

If it all goes belly up (sic) and there are complications - the private hospital will transfer you to the nearest NHS for advanced treatment / consultants which takes time... and time during childbirth can mean the difference between a healthy child or a problem you will have to live with for the rest of your lives

So to me it makes sense to be in the NHS to start with

Trouble is you have to share the facilities with the local chav/immigrant population both of which are breeding at prodigious rates

HTH

Good point... I wonder if there is such a thing as NHS - topped up..

Benny
12th May 2011, 09:40
oh.. and no matter what the woman’s point of view about "natural" childbirth get the anaesthetist to put a spinal shunt in asap that way if she finds out the hard way that childbirth really really hurts they can get anaesthetic in straight away rather than have to call out the duty anaesthetist who may take some time to arrive

Also consider the majority of female Consultant Obstetricians opt for an elective caesarean rather than natural… some call this “too posh to push” approach but it actually removes any possibility of Birth trauma .. and is something that should be considered (but with obvious aftercare overheads, but with the bonus that it leaves the fanny nice and tight for next time rumpy dumpy)

And crucially remember you have a voice and don’t be afraid to use it

sasguru
12th May 2011, 09:42
SG junior was born at the Portland. Well worth paying the approx £9K it cost for spotless facilities, excellent staff and keeping the great unwashed out.

doodab
12th May 2011, 09:44
You will be in your own room during the actual birth anyway. It's only during the pre-natal care and recovery afterwards where you will mix with the rest of society.

russell
12th May 2011, 09:45
SG junior was born at the Portland. Well worth paying the approx £9K it cost for spotless facilities, excellent staff and keeping the great unwashed out.

Mug, so you payed 9K more for the same outcome you would have got at an NHS with £100 for a private room. I think this saying is appropriate

"A Fool And His Money Are Easily Parted"

Jog On
12th May 2011, 09:46
WHS. NHS, private room to keep away from the council estate proles.

Anyway, can you actually do private childbirth?

This looks like the way forward

sasguru
12th May 2011, 09:48
Mug, so you payed 9K more for the same outcome you would have got at an NHS with £100 for a private room. I think this saying is appropriate

"A Fool And His Money Are Easily Parted"

Same outcome? Possibly who knows? As It was a breech birth there were complications that made me glad we had one of the pre-eminent specialists in his field.
And a private room more like a 5 star.

And BTW £9K is chump change to me, poor boy.

DimPrawn
12th May 2011, 09:49
Or elect to have the baby delivered at home in a birthing pool. That way, you are effectively private anyway.

Of course, you can go to the Portland like sasguru did, but then you'll have to spend time with z list celebs and toffy nosed morons.

sasguru
12th May 2011, 09:51
Of course, you can go to the Portland like sasguru did, but then you'll have to spend time with z list celebs and toffy nosed morons.

I think you're missing the point of the private suite.

shaunbhoy
12th May 2011, 09:52
I think you're missing the point of the private suite.

I hope you got the father to stump up half the cost!!!!

russell
12th May 2011, 10:10
Same outcome? Possibly who knows? As It was a breech birth there were complications that made me glad we had one of the pre-eminent specialists in his field.
And a private room more like a 5 star.

And BTW £9K is chump change to me, poor boy.

People with real money never talk about it, only oinks that have come in to a little of it boast. Given your boasings I would have you on the same level as this guy.

Lotto millionaire Michael Carroll ordered to clean up his wrecked mansion - before he can rent it immigrants | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1018730/Chav-Lotto-millionaire-Michael-Carroll-ordered-clean-wrecked-320-000-mansion--rent-immigrants.html)

sasguru
12th May 2011, 10:13
People with real money never talk about it, only oinks that have come in to a little of it boast. Given your boasings I would have you on the same level as this guy.

Lotto millionaire Michael Carroll ordered to clean up his wrecked mansion - before he can rent it immigrants | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1018730/Chav-Lotto-millionaire-Michael-Carroll-ordered-clean-wrecked-320-000-mansion--rent-immigrants.html)

Try to speak English properly.
I mentioned on a thread that asked for advice what it cost to have a private birth.
If you think that's boasting that says more about your impoverished state than anything about me.

HTH, poor boy, but IDI.

sasguru
12th May 2011, 10:14
I hope you got the father to stump up half the cost!!!!

The father paid the whole cost.
HTH

russell
12th May 2011, 10:16
The father paid the whole cost.
HTH

I hope you thanked him.

sasguru
12th May 2011, 10:17
I hope you thanked him.

I did. I bought myself a whole bottle of champagne.

russell
12th May 2011, 10:17
Try to speak English properly.
I mentioned on a thread that asked for advice what it cost to have a private birth.
If you think that's boasting that says more about your impoverished state than anything about me.

HTH, poor boy, but IDI.

My wife and I own over 2 million in properties over Europe

HTH.

russell
12th May 2011, 10:18
I did. I bought myself a whole bottle of champagne.

Then handed it to him?

sasguru
12th May 2011, 10:19
My wife and I own over 2 million in properties over Europe

HTH.

Sure you do, Dim, sure you do.:laugh:laugh

Well at least we know whose sockie this is now.

gingerjedi
12th May 2011, 11:00
Mrs PRC had a private room in an NHS hospital. So the birth part was all NHS but she didn't have to recover in a ward full of the great unwashed.

For our first the maternity ward in our local NHS hospital was empty when we arrived so we saw little point in paying for the small private room, my wife stayed for 3 days and though the ward did fill it wasn't full of the ghastly people you speak of.

Maybe move to a nicer area.:smile

BTW our 2nd is due today.:eek:

Pondlife
12th May 2011, 11:10
BTW our 2nd is due today.:eek:

Fingers crossed for yourself and Mrs Jedi.

Hope all goes well.


<:tongue>

Did you get it tested for ginger?

</:tongue>

cailin maith
12th May 2011, 11:11
Fingers crossed for yourself and Mrs Jedi.

Hope all goes well.



WHS

Good Luck!!

PRC1964
12th May 2011, 11:12
For our first the maternity ward in our local NHS hospital was empty when we arrived so we saw little point in paying for the small private room, my wife stayed for 3 days and though the ward did fill it wasn't full of the ghastly people you speak of.

Maybe move to a nicer area.:smile

BTW our 2nd is due today.:eek:

To be fair, the ward wasn't full for us either. It was more a case of wanting to be sure of some peace and quiet, oh and £100 is hardly going to break the bank is it?

Good luck with No. 2

Jog On
12th May 2011, 11:53
WHS

Good Luck!!

+1

Spacecadet
12th May 2011, 12:02
+1

WJOS

sasguru
12th May 2011, 12:27
BTW our 2nd is due today.:eek:

Missed this. Congrats and good luck. Get some matchsticks to lever your eyes open over the next few weeks.

DimPrawn
12th May 2011, 12:30
Missed this. Congrats and good luck. Get some matchsticks to lever your eyes open over the next few weeks.

Why? You upping your post count again?

NotAllThere
12th May 2011, 12:32
Fail!

No "AndyW's mum's a midwife" option.FTFY

Clippy
12th May 2011, 12:32
Why? You upping your post count again?

Thought you had ceased posting until you made your first second million quid?

doodab
12th May 2011, 12:34
Get some matchsticks to lever your eyes open over the next few weeks.

Bugger that, earplugs and get yourself in the spare room.

Congrats.

Old Greg
12th May 2011, 12:36
All the best.

I'd be very wary of a private hospital. Continuity of care between professionals is poor. At night there will be a resident medical office who can't get a job in the NHS and if it all goes wrong you get a lovely ride in a nee-naw to an NHS hospital, who will pick up the pieces - I believe that the Wellington has the only private ICU in the UK, but that may be out of date now. A private side room is not a bad option. Be aware that in some hospitals, this will not be guaranteed, as they will give it to some NHS patients in preference (e.g. a mother of twins). Also, it's not so bad in a 6 bedded bay and midwives wandering in and out do 'eyeball' new mums to check they they are coping / well and offer support. It's not a bad thing. Mrs OG has just had our second and was one of 2 patients in the 6 bedded bay and it was fine. As she was in for 3 nights in the end, she would have been pretty isolated in a room on her own. For some of the time there was a mum who may have been POOR. Fortunately, we are curiously unscathed, but I do accept that snobs may have issues with this (not saying that that is the only reason for wanting a private room).

Best of luck again!

Old Greg
12th May 2011, 12:36
Thought you had ceased posting until you made your first second million quid?

He photocopied the first million.

scooterscot
12th May 2011, 12:48
We're going deutsche. Sorting out our health insurance here was time consuming but now no worries, just flash the card on the way in.

We selected a maternity hospital here in Munich (3 for us to choice from) choice of individual rooms or shared with a bed for me, if I wanted. 3 days spent in the hospital after birth, appartently the infants don't come with instructions :confused:

Afterwards a midwife said she'll visit twice a day for the first week.

Mini scooter is due in 4 days time.

cailin maith
12th May 2011, 12:50
We're going deutsche. Sorting out our health insurance here was time consuming but now no worries, just flash the card on the way in.

We selected a maternity hospital here in Munich (3 for us to choice from) choice of individual rooms or shared with a bed for me, if I wanted. 3 days spent in the hospital after birth, appartently the infants don't come with instructions :confused:

Afterwards a midwife said she'll visit twice a day for the first week.

Mini scooter is due in 4 days time.

:yay: Good Luck!

sasguru
12th May 2011, 12:52
Mini scooter is due in 4 days time.

Another one! Congrats...

Old Greg
12th May 2011, 12:52
We're going deutsche. Sorting out our health insurance here was time consuming but now no worries, just flash the card on the way in.

We selected a maternity hospital here in Munich (3 for us to choice from) choice of individual rooms or shared with a bed for me, if I wanted. 3 days spent in the hospital after birth, appartently the infants don't come with instructions :confused:

Afterwards a midwife said she'll visit twice a day for the first week.

Mini scooter is due in 4 days time.

How exciting! No instructions needed. When the baby cries, it is hungry. It is not hot, cold, wet, bored, lonely, tired, overexcited, under-stimulated. Just hungry.

sasguru
12th May 2011, 12:54
When the baby cries, it is hungry. It is not hot, cold, wet, bored, lonely, tired, overexcited, under-stimulated. Just hungry.

Actually it could be one of these ....

MarillionFan
12th May 2011, 12:57
Actually it could be one of these ....

Exactly. I reckon OG has just realised why he's divorced and the kids used to cry when they're left out in the snow.

'But he's hungry love!':rolleyes:

DimPrawn
12th May 2011, 13:00
Thought you had ceased posting until you made your first second million quid?

Some of my investments have fallen in value due to the commodity sell off, currency effects and stock market falls.

I'm now back to working on making my first million again.

HTH

doodab
12th May 2011, 13:01
Mini scooter is due in 4 days time.

They don't need one of those until they are about 2.

Congrats.

TykeMerc
12th May 2011, 13:09
Congratulations to Gingerjedi and Scooterscot and maybe Jog On :)

Old Greg
12th May 2011, 13:15
Actually it could be one of these ....

No, it's hungry.

Halo Jones
12th May 2011, 14:31
Congratulations to Gingerjedi and Scooterscot and maybe Jog On :)

WTMS :yay:

shaunbhoy
12th May 2011, 14:39
The father paid the whole cost.
HTH

Fair play to him. By the way, you might want to check you are not overpaying your Polish builder.

:wink