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NickFitz
17th May 2011, 14:39
"...even though they don’t mean to (http://www.brelson.com/2011/05/how-recruiters-are-posing-a-threat-to-linkedin-even-though-they-dont-mean-to/)". Interesting examination of how and why recruiters dilute the network effects that should make LinkedIn useful.

PinkPoshRat
17th May 2011, 14:50
Every agent who attempts to link up with me (just because they've seen my cv online) gets treated the same. I report them as spam on linkedin. Hopefully if enough of us do the same, he or she (the agent) will have their account closed.. Mwuhaha!

Fred Bloggs
17th May 2011, 14:54
Every agent who attempts to link up with me (just because they've seen my cv online) gets treated the same. I report them as spam on linkedin. Hopefully if enough of us do the same, he or she (the agent) will have their account closed.. Mwuhaha!+1.

MarillionFan
17th May 2011, 15:00
+1.

+2

I just won't connect to agents unless I have specifically spent time working with them. It dilutes the process.

TykeMerc
17th May 2011, 15:11
Every agent who attempts to link up with me (just because they've seen my cv online) gets treated the same. I report them as spam on linkedin. Hopefully if enough of us do the same, he or she (the agent) will have their account closed.. Mwuhaha!

I'd never thought of reporting them as spam, good idea, I'll do that in future. I currently just refuse their requests.

I agree with the initial point and article Nick, it's the driving reason I don't use LinkedIn much.

DodgyAgent
17th May 2011, 15:18
Every agent who attempts to link up with me (just because they've seen my cv online) gets treated the same. I report them as spam on linkedin. Hopefully if enough of us do the same, he or she (the agent) will have their account closed.. Mwuhaha!

So why do you post details of yourself if you don't want people to read them and contact you?

pmeswani
17th May 2011, 15:26
So why do you post details of yourself if you don't want people to read them and contact you?

For the majority of us, we use Linkedin to keep in touch with people we use to work with. It's a shame that agents feel that it is ok to willy nilly add people as contacts without any prior engagement.

realityhack
17th May 2011, 15:30
I got this gig because of my LI profile, and know many others who have found work through it... but always directly from the recruiter, never through an agent. If I was on the market though, I wouldn't mind if an agent found me through it - why not? Just make sure your connections are hidden.

NickFitz
17th May 2011, 15:32
So why do you post details of yourself if you don't want people to read them and contact you?

For the majority of us, we use Linkedin to keep in touch with people we use to work with. It's a shame that agents feel that it is ok to willy nilly add people as contacts without any prior engagement.

Exactly. If a recruiter wants to contact me through LinkedIn they may do so, but to then attempt to add me as a contact for no other reason than that they sent me an unsolicited message about a position that wasn't suitable is to abuse the system.

NickFitz
17th May 2011, 15:34
I got this gig because of my LI profile, and know many others who have found work through it... but always directly from the recruiter, never through an agent. If I was on the market though, I wouldn't mind if an agent found me through it - why not? Just make sure your connections are hidden.

Nobody's suggesting that agents shouldn't be able to contact people through LinkedIn, just that they shouldn't go on to abuse it in a way that dilutes the value of the network.

realityhack
17th May 2011, 15:35
Can't they send a message without being a connection? If so, WNFS. ^

pmeswani
17th May 2011, 15:38
Can't they send a message without being a connection? If so, WNFS. ^

Yes they can. I have been contacted by agents without them being a connection before.

SimonMac
17th May 2011, 15:41
Can't they send a message without being a connection? If so, WNFS. ^

I think LinkedIn now has a "premium" subscription which lets Agents spam people

stek
17th May 2011, 16:12
I've got one now wanting me a friend. Agent for three months, previous role, bar manager....

Honest!

PinkPoshRat
17th May 2011, 16:58
How about this then.... Oh and it's all cut out from my email from agency (now on my blacklist)


Agent email:
Thanks for your CV in consideration for this role. You look fairly well suited to one of the contract roles available.

I looked at your Linkedin profile and the companies you have worked at, and the dates differ on Linkedin from what is on your CV, so once you have clarified these in writing with your CV and Linkedin profile singing off the same hymn sheet, we will then be in a position to represent you.

Please understand, that if our client were to spot the differences / discrepancies, it is unlikely that you would be granted an interview. By clearing this up in advance of us submitting your CV to this client, it gives you a great opportunity.

Please pardon my directness, it's just the way we operate and it isn't intended to be confrontational - the opposite in fact, by trying to help!




My reply: The dates on my CV are accurate.



Agent Reply: Can you explain the differences between your CV and Linkedin please?


My next reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool.


Agent next reply: I meant the date differences.


My final reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool. The dates on my CV are accurate, whereas the dates on LinkedIn are not.

Sysman
17th May 2011, 19:39
How about this then.... Oh and it's all cut out from my email from agency (now on my blacklist)


Agent email:
Thanks for your CV in consideration for this role. You look fairly well suited to one of the contract roles available.

I looked at your Linkedin profile and the companies you have worked at, and the dates differ on Linkedin from what is on your CV, so once you have clarified these in writing with your CV and Linkedin profile singing off the same hymn sheet, we will then be in a position to represent you.

Please understand, that if our client were to spot the differences / discrepancies, it is unlikely that you would be granted an interview. By clearing this up in advance of us submitting your CV to this client, it gives you a great opportunity.

Please pardon my directness, it's just the way we operate and it isn't intended to be confrontational - the opposite in fact, by trying to help!




My reply: The dates on my CV are accurate.



Agent Reply: Can you explain the differences between your CV and Linkedin please?


My next reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool.


Agent next reply: I meant the date differences.


My final reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool. The dates on my CV are accurate, whereas the dates on LinkedIn are not.

Ye Gods! I bet you didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

pmeswani
17th May 2011, 20:07
How about this then.... Oh and it's all cut out from my email from agency (now on my blacklist)


Agent email:
Thanks for your CV in consideration for this role. You look fairly well suited to one of the contract roles available.

I looked at your Linkedin profile and the companies you have worked at, and the dates differ on Linkedin from what is on your CV, so once you have clarified these in writing with your CV and Linkedin profile singing off the same hymn sheet, we will then be in a position to represent you.

Please understand, that if our client were to spot the differences / discrepancies, it is unlikely that you would be granted an interview. By clearing this up in advance of us submitting your CV to this client, it gives you a great opportunity.

Please pardon my directness, it's just the way we operate and it isn't intended to be confrontational - the opposite in fact, by trying to help!




My reply: The dates on my CV are accurate.



Agent Reply: Can you explain the differences between your CV and Linkedin please?


My next reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool.


Agent next reply: I meant the date differences.


My final reply: I use LinkedIn as a social networking tool – I do not use LinkedIn as a CV tool. The dates on my CV are accurate, whereas the dates on LinkedIn are not.

Well, if someone wants to have difference between profiles (CV and LinkedIn), then that's up to them.

configman
17th May 2011, 20:39
Can't they send a message without being a connection? If so, WNFS. ^

Easy to bypass. They look at your current client and find their web domain and guess your work email address - or they ring the client reception and ask for you directly. I've had both these done so my LI profile always shows my own company for the current assignment. This is where the agents are really destroying the usefullness of Linkedin. I had one agent emailing several job descriptions daily on one contract then following up with cold calls to reception.

norrahe
17th May 2011, 20:53
I got this gig because of my LI profile, and know many others who have found work through it... but always directly from the recruiter, never through an agent. If I was on the market though, I wouldn't mind if an agent found me through it - why not? Just make sure your connections are hidden.

Same here, have found LI useful as I'm looking at moving abroad and managed to generate some interest and get myself some contacts that I wouldn't have otherwise.

Block your contacts, that way you don't have people trying to pilfer your contacts and annoying you.

realityhack
17th May 2011, 21:01
Same here, have found LI useful as I'm looking at moving abroad and managed to generate some interest and get myself some contacts that I wouldn't have otherwise.

Block your contacts, that way you don't have people trying to pilfer your contacts and annoying you.
Nor - is that the same as hiding my connections from others or is there a further level of privacy I've not found?

cojak
17th May 2011, 22:05
Nor - is that the same as hiding my connections from others or is there a further level of privacy I've not found?

The same. I also have created the 'Blue Chip (London)' company as my other current company.

norrahe
18th May 2011, 07:50
Nor - is that the same as hiding my connections from others or is there a further level of privacy I've not found?

Yes, it is the same.

To be honest ever since I hid my connections I don't get hassled and generally the only people I get contacted by are agents that I have spoken to regarding roles.

I also find it easier to post that I'm looking for work in my status and agents then contact me anyway.

If someone contacts me that i do not wish to do business with, then I ignore it.

Ignis Fatuus
18th May 2011, 07:53
So why do you post details of yourself if you don't want people to read them and contact you?For the reasons mentioned in the web page linked to in the OP, i.e. you want people to read them and contact you, but you don't want to accept every person who does as a LinkedIn Contact.

SimonMac
18th May 2011, 09:00
Ye Gods! I bet you didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

Spacecadet
18th May 2011, 09:06
There used to be an issue with the LinkedIn LION members - people who would accept any invitation and willingly advertised the fact. The LinkedIn bods didn't like this as it broke the spirit of what LinkedIn was about. At some point they backed down and let them get on with it.