Air France Crash - shocking

[pacharan]

Plane took 3 minutes to drop out of the sky:

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I used to use that route quite a lot. May their should rest in peace is all I can say really.

[GreenLabel]

May their should rest in peace is all I can say really.

You might wanna try saying it again.

[shaunbhoy]

You might wanna try saying it again.

Yeah,
and do it before you chase the dragon this time round!!

[Scotgal]

I can only begin to imagine the horror! This is why you will never get me on a plane.

[Cliphead]

I can only begin to imagine the horror! This is why you will never get me on a plane.

No fear of flying as long as I'm in the cockpit. Three and a half minutes in near free fall contemplating your death isn't a nice way to go but won't stop me flying. Horror indeed.

[SueEllen]

I can only begin to imagine the horror! This is why you will never get me on a plane.

As long as your pilots are Western and you get on and off the plane in a developed country including connections, you don't have a problem.

I could post a link to the pilots forum I found a few months ago but then it would scare you tulipless..... To put it this way in some countries with extremely large populations it's definitely safer to travel internally by road and rail.

[Paddy]

No fear of flying as long as I'm in the cockpit. Three and a half minutes in near free fall contemplating your death isn't a nice way to go but won't stop me flying. Horror indeed.

I would suggest watching the complete “air crash investigation” series (available on youtube). It has valuable lessons not just for flying but for also for management of situations.

[Cliphead]

I would suggest watching the complete “air crash investigation” series (available on youtube). It has valuable lessons not just for flying but for also for management of situations.

I worked at Farnborough many years ago, had some contact with AAIB. Can't say much but it was a sobering experience and made me a better pilot. I don't need any education about air safety.

[Paddy]

I worked at Farnborough many years ago, had some contact with AAIB. Can't say much but it was a sobering experience and made me a better pilot. I don't need any education about air safety.

I found the series interesting not just because of the air safety aspect but interesting in how a critical situation can come about even with the most experienced pilots due to in-depth instincts taking president over logic or wrongly laid down procedures.

[gingerjedi]

In a passage likely to attract scrutiny, the BEA said the pilot 'maintained nose-up inputs' when a fresh stall warning went off 46 seconds after the autopilot disengaged itself.

The BEA declined to say whether this was the correct action to take and the information given so far does not give a complete picture of the information displayed to the crew.

But the response contrasts with the latest advice to pilots contained in an Airbus training seminar in October last year, according to a document obtained by Reuters.
In large red capital letters, the document says that in the event of a stall warning, pilots should 'APPLY NOSE DOWN PITCH CONTROL TO REDUCE AOA (ANGLE OF ATTACK)'.

I'm no expert but this is really basic stuff isn't it? I fly power kites and sail so I have a basic understanding of how aerodynamics work, it seems obvious to me that pulling the nose up in a stall is never going to work.