The plan to smother Wales with Windmills

[BlasterBates]

....has been replaced by a plan to smother Ireland.

Britain offers to subsidise Irish wind farm industry - The Irish Times - Mon, Jun 20, 2011

Perhaps we can also dump our Nuclear waste there too.

[gingerjedi]

The madness continues.

TAN8 appears to be A Cunning Plan to smother every hill & mountain in Wales with the infernal windmills.

450 feet tall windmills at that.

Just paint the masts green and the rotors yellow, tidy.

[wim121]

I really cant see how the idiotic "green" renewable energy movement gained so much ground. Technically, nuclear power is the greenest form of energy. More friendly than wind, wave, solar and hyrdo power. Anyone who claims to truly care about the green ethos should rally against renewable energy and encourage nuclear power.


People dont think about the low production of power per m2, the amount of materials that go in to a windmill or other renewable energy solutions that make it environmentally harmful.


I would suggest anyone who wants to read a fair subjective report, not sponsored by evil companies such as RES, have a read through this mans blog and download his pdf by searching google for "nuclear heresies":

The Nuclear Green Revolution: Jesse H. Ausubel: Renewable and Nuclear Heresies

[Doggy Styles]

To say nothing of turning the countryside into a giant pin-cushion.

[DimPrawn]

This country is full of green *******.

[SimonMac]

The Subways of Tazoo:

http://www.univeros.com/usenet/cache...of%20Tazoo.pdf

Page 31 on.

You could have put a warning on that its 33 pages of text and no pictures,

Sorry, I'm out!

[scooterscot]

What have you people got against change?

Harvesting energy from natural resources such as wind as opposed to making the fuel removes so much unnecessary processing, safety concerns, bureaucrat red tape it's little wonder the windmill population is exploding. Processes cost money, the cost of operating, maintaining and decommissioning a nuclear power plant would almost bail out a bank.

[SimonMac]

What have you people got against change?

Heathen, stone him!

[wim121]

What have you people got against change?

Harvesting energy from natural resources such as wind as opposed to making the fuel removes so much unnecessary processing, safety concerns, bureaucrat red tape it's little wonder the windmill population is exploding. Processes cost money, the cost of operating, maintaining and decommissioning a nuclear power plant would almost bail out a bank.

Read the information I posted before you make a fool out of yourself.

Natural resources such as wind, compared to the energy output of a reactor is far more expensive and uses much more resources.

[scooterscot]

Read the information I posted before you make a fool out of yourself.

Natural resources such as wind, compared to the energy output of a reactor is far more expensive and uses much more resources.

Ok lets do some research then, 60 seconds...

To quote your text you linked:

Berkeley engineer Per Petersen reports that for an average MWe a typical wind-energy system operating with a 6.5 meters-per-second average wind speed requires construction inputs of 460 metric tons of steel and 870 cubic meters of concrete. For comparison, the construction of existing 1970-vintage US nuclear power plants required 40 metric tons of steel and 190 cubic meters of concrete per average megawatt of electricity generating capacity. Wind’s infrastructure takes 5-10 times the steel and concrete as nuclear’s.

Surely if were this true we'd put a massive big stop to the whole thing. You must know what you're talking about, you got it off the internet. Once you build a wind farm maintenance is all that remains. With a nuclear, fuel does not grow on trees, the energy that must be spent on:

1) Mining

2) Milling

3) Uranium conversion

4) Enrichment

5) Fabrication

6) Transport of radioactive materials

7) Used fuel

8) Reprocessing

I'm sure the example you provide considers the infrastructure required to support all those processes, right?