Remembrance Day Respect vs Liberty Poll - which is more dangerous to society?

[Old Greg]

Discuss

[MarillionFan]

Discuss

Bit two edged isn't it. Racial or religious hatred has been sited in the past for the burning of the poppy, but it's neither of those as Wills pointed out to FIFA.

[pacharan]

A tough one to call.

While I always buy a poppy, I can't help feeling that there is a growing sense of mawkishness every year associated with the whole thing.

That and having to be seen to be doing the right thing so you can pat yourself on the back are why the England football team are running out with poppies tomorrow.

It's just becoming the same as all the other emblems of different charities that people wear to make themselves feel good.

[russell]

I don't get the poppy thing at all, it's all history are we to linger in the past miseries every year? Couldn't care less if someone burns them or not, it's all ballocks.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The Poppy burners are the same ones who were going to march at Wooton Basset but cried off once they had the publicity. I suspect they may have been blic spritibanned to prevent them from getting a major shoeing if they really tried it again this year - I think they should be allowed to go ahead, with the proviso that due to budget constraints, the Police might be a little slow in getting to them before public-spirited ordinary folk.

[shaunbhoy]

Nothing wrong with Remembering the fallen. Had we been born in different times then it might have been our generation making such sacrifices. I give to the RBL every year, and also to Help for Heroes on occasion.
However, latterly I have opted not to openly wear a Poppy. For one thing they are fiddly things to put on, but more importantly, I am rebelling in my own way against the Poppy Fascists that seem to have started dictating that the wearing of one is almost somehow mandatory these days.
To me, this flies in the face of what the sacrifice was all about. The maintenance of Freedom of Choice.
Both of my grandfathers took part in WWI. One on the Western Front and the other at Gallipoli.
I shall be observing a minute's quiet reflection come the 11th hour. That is the personal choice I will be making, and I would urge others to do the same, and not feel pressured into commemorating the occasion in any way deemed suitable by political opportunists and charlatans.

[sasguru]

I don't get the poppy thing at all, it's all history are we to linger in the past miseries every year? Couldn't care less if someone burns them or not, it's all ballocks.

You should perhaps reflect on the fact that your current freedom to be a complete khoont was actually hard won, and not by you.

[minestrone]

The news these days seems to be filled with what people think on twitter as if that is news itself.

[cailin maith]

You should perhaps reflect on the fact that your current freedom to be a complete khoont was actually hard won, and not by you.

WHS

[russell]

You should perhaps reflect on the fact that your current freedom to be a complete khoont was actually hard won, and not by you.

Freedom? Being forced every year into reflecting on one of hundreds of wars throughout history, and if you say otherwise you are branded a khoont?

Oh no they are having a 2 mins silence here.