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gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 09:34
Anyone here had a petrol 2.0T estate? What's the mpg like? I know its the same engine as the Golf GTI but the car weighs 1700kg!

I'm only interested as you can get a 3 or 4 year old low mileage fully loaded SEL for sub £6k which is a lot of car for the money.

Milan?

Spacecadet
22nd December 2011, 09:45
Anyone here had a petrol 2.0T estate? What's the mpg like? I know its the same engine as the Golf GTI but the car weighs 1700kg!

I'm only interested as you can get a 3 or 4 year old low mileage fully loaded SEL for sub £6k which is a lot of car for the money.

Milan?

parkers and autotrader will tell you that

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 09:47
parkers and autotrader will tell you that

They quote manufacturers figures which at 35mpg combined I find hard to believe.

eek
22nd December 2011, 09:47
parkers and autotrader will tell you that

No parkers and autotrader will tell you the official MPG figures which no one will ever get.

You need a real owner to tell you the truth. I think the Whatcar reader reviews may provide that information.

Spacecadet
22nd December 2011, 10:04
No parkers and autotrader will tell you the official MPG figures which no one will ever get.

You need a real owner to tell you the truth. I think the Whatcar reader reviews may provide that information.

In which case you need to ask for Passat 2.0T SEL Petrol owners ;)

Real owner feedback depends on how and where they drive and their chioce of tyres (I've seen a 5mpg difference between the supplied eco tyres and the comfort tyres I replaced them with)

Compare the official figures with those from other similar cars with smaller/bigger engines and the petrol/diesel varients.

swamp
22nd December 2011, 10:15
The Mk5 GTI has an official figure of 35mpg. Real world this is more like 32mpg, which is still pretty good.

I would hazard a guess that the 2.0 TFSI in the Passat is tuned slightly differently, and will return a similar mpg. It's a great engine with good performance and reliability, though it does need RON 98 petrol which costs more.

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 10:28
Can they really not stop water getting into the ECU?

After all these years?

On successive revisions?

Stunning.

They probably hadn't considered the special properties of Welsh rain.

BillHicksRIP
22nd December 2011, 12:35
If you're going for a pre-2008 model with a PD engine, make sure it's had all 4 injectors replaced. They used to be £800 a pop, but VW are replacing them free of charge, but if they haven't been replaced, the engine can cut out at any speed.

Bumfluff
22nd December 2011, 13:50
I've got the same engine in Audi A3 sportback 5dr. On a motorway run 80mph-90mph, I get about 34-36mpg depending on whether I use normal or super petrol. Driving locally though around London lots of stop / starts I'm seeing 21-23mpg :sick

DimPrawn
22nd December 2011, 13:53
Is your life really that dull you actually want to own a Passat when there are lots of interesting cars out there?

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 14:31
Is your life really that dull you actually want to own a Passat when there are lots of interesting cars out there?

I need an estate and the list of affordable cars is:

Alfa 159 (anything but the 3.2)
VW Passat (2.0T or 170 TDI)
Audi A4 (getting a bit pricey)
BMW 3 Series (shit in ice and snow)

I favour the Alfa but still worry about reliability (I'm used to bombproof Japanese motors).

DimPrawn
22nd December 2011, 14:43
I need an estate and the list of affordable cars is:

Alfa 159 (anything but the 3.2)
VW Passat (2.0T or 170 TDI)
Audi A4 (getting a bit pricey)
BMW 3 Series (tulip in ice and snow)

I favour the Alfa but still worry about reliability (I'm used to bombproof Japanese motors).

What about the Mazda6 estate? Or the CX-7?


I'd take a punt on the Alfa. Buy an extended warranty.

northernladuk
22nd December 2011, 15:03
If you're going for a pre-2008 model with a PD engine, make sure it's had all 4 injectors replaced. They used to be £800 a pop, but VW are replacing them free of charge, but if they haven't been replaced, the engine can cut out at any speed.

Check for a recall..

Official Pd170 Injectors Recall - VAGdrivers - sponsored by Alloy-Wheels.ie (http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=74194)

Joeman
22nd December 2011, 15:05
Ive got a W'Reg 1.8 petrol Passat Estate for lugging the dogs about in.
Nice car to drive, not had any problems, and ideal for the dogs.
not sure what the MPG is, but certainly seem to be pouring fuel into it quite often!

Old Greg
22nd December 2011, 17:19
Is your life really that dull you actually want to own a Passat when there are lots of interesting cars out there?

Is your life really that dull you actually want to spice it up with a car when there are lots of interesting activities out there?

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 19:57
What about the Mazda6 estate? Or the CX-7?


I'd take a punt on the Alfa. Buy an extended warranty.

Mazda6 is on the list but I forgot to add it, I hear the diesels are tulip and the petrol models aren't very interesting apart from the 2.5 but not many about.

Oh I don't know, change my mind like the wind, probably stick with my current Mazda6 for a few more months.

Fred Bloggs
22nd December 2011, 20:08
The B5 and B5.5 VW Passat/Skoda Superb really are best avoided. They have some serious problems with water ingress into the electrics and various other places due to some really, really dumb detail engineering around the pollen filter, the battery plenum chamber, the bonnet release grommet, sun roof channel drains etc.... The design faults were around for years and never fixed properly, the internet is full of the horror stories. Best to avoid (especially the 2.0 PD diesel engine which eats engine oil pumps) these cars, IMHO.

AtW
22nd December 2011, 20:39
Is your life really that dull you actually want to own a Passat when there are lots of interesting cars out there?

WHS

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 21:23
WHS

:laugh (no need to explain) :laugh :laugh

gingerjedi
22nd December 2011, 21:29
Now I've had a couple of glasses of wine I'm thinking sod it the wife has got her new people carrier maybe something sporty? I bought a 5 door last time because of the kids but I can count the number of times they've been in my car on one hand.

Leon Cupra? VW GTI?? 130i has got to be a hoot surely? :devil

d000hg
22nd December 2011, 23:30
Is your life really that dull you actually want to own a Passat when there are lots of interesting cars out there?Is your life really that dull that the type of car you travel in is more interesting than the places you are travelling between?

DimPrawn
27th December 2011, 20:30
Now I've had a couple of glasses of wine I'm thinking sod it the wife has got her new people carrier maybe something sporty? I bought a 5 door last time because of the kids but I can count the number of times they've been in my car on one hand.

Leon Cupra? VW GTI?? 130i has got to be a hoot surely? :devil

How much? How many miles per year? etc?

Two seats?

milanbenes
27th December 2011, 20:53
our passat is 2003 tdi 6 speed manual

no complaints, it's accelerates hard and will do 110mph at 3500rpm

sits heavy on the motorway, doesn't drift around

can't complain at that

Milan.

gingerjedi
27th December 2011, 22:24
How much? How many miles per year? etc?

Two seats?

£10k, 4 seats/doors, 30,000 per year (which should point me towards diesel) :ind:.

I'm going to leave it a month and see whats on the market when everyone realises they couldn't afford Christmas.:laugh

AtW
27th December 2011, 22:37
I'm going to leave it a month and see whats on the market when everyone realises they couldn't afford Christmas.:laugh

Why wait? It will be still a dull car next year...

gingerjedi
27th December 2011, 22:48
Why wait? It will be still a dull car next year...

There are hardly any cars on Autotrader over Christmas, dealers have run their stock down and private sellers have other things on their minds.

I have kids and a bit of sailing kit I occasionally need to move around, I'm not that bothered if it's not a dirty great penis extension as I have more interesting things in my life, just want a half decent motor for not a lot of money.

AtW
27th December 2011, 23:14
I have more interesting things in my life

If you did you would not be posting on CUK after 11pm - you saddo! :tongue

OwlHoot
27th December 2011, 23:49
If you did you would not be posting on CUK after 11pm - you saddo! :tongue

Says the guy who can barely wait to post at 11:59pm on New Year's Eve. :laugh

milanbenes
28th December 2011, 07:27
Says the guy who can barely wait to post at 11:59pm on New Year's Eve. :laugh



that was below the belt

:laugh

Milan.