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Troll
6th January 2012, 15:20
The wind turbines that can’t cope… with the WIND! Three more are blown to pieces in gales that swept across Britain

Read more: Wind turbines can't cope with UK weather as 3 more blown to pieces | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083149/Wind-turbines-cope-UK-weather-3-blown-pieces.html#ixzz1igwhIHKZ)

DimPrawn
6th January 2012, 15:30
It's all worth it to stop the Earth warming.....only it hasn't warmed

BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8299079.stm)

By Paul Hudson
Climate correspondent, BBC News

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise.

OwlHoot
6th January 2012, 20:44
Are there ones with retractable blades?

They wouldn't even have to be retractable, just (slightly) twistable.

TimberWolf
6th January 2012, 22:32
Must be 10s of thousands of them now, perhaps a few going down a day is normal?

AtW
6th January 2012, 22:37
We'll know it's a real problem when shaunbhoy announces that he no longer contracts to fix mobile communications sites but instead will fix the wind power generators.

TimberWolf
6th January 2012, 22:48
We'll know it's a real problem when shaunbhoy announces that he no longer contracts to fix mobile communications sites but instead will fix the wind power generators.

Wind turbine guys/gals must be laughing in the face of recession. No sooner have you put one up than it needs fixing or totally replacing.

scooterscot
7th January 2012, 00:04
Sad if true escape from short-terminsim cannot be found in an engineering firm. Although it sounds like there are no engineers.


No wonder it failed! The board of Evoco consist of seven directors from the retail sector and a racing driver. The only Engineer on the board does not appear to have have previous machine design or manufacturing experience. This is just another fiasco in the farce that is the ''wind energy program''. It is not about energy its about making money. To say they failed because of high winds is criminal. They should be designed to meet winds they should never experience. They should all be shut down until the design has been certified, by a renowned International Design House, that they are Fit For Purpose and can withstand winds of up to at least 150 mph. Which should give a potential safety factor of some 20%


Read more: Wind turbines can't cope with UK weather as 3 more blown to pieces | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083149/Wind-turbines-cope-UK-weather-3-blown-pieces.html#ixzz1ij4Fdbk1)

pjclarke
7th January 2012, 00:16
Sense of proportion. Least it wasn't a deepwater well failing, killing 11 people and dumping 5 million barrels of crude into the Gulf of Mexico ....

If you measure a noisy signal starting from an outlier, yes you can get a flat or even negative short-term trend, you can also publically demonstrate your ignorance of statistical significance, and the irrelevance of short term trends (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/a-warming-pause/)...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

pjclarke
7th January 2012, 00:34
But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.

And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise.

It was BS in 2009 (http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2009/10/13/204788/the-bbc-hudson-what-happened-to-global-warming-hottest-decade-in-recorded-history/?mobile=nc), it is BS now...


To state, as Hudson does, then, that “climate models did not forecast [this] even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise” is not only wrong, but staggeringly, bewilderingly wrong. And one only has to look at the evidence he cites to prove it.

Keeping denial alive at the BBC: the falsehoods of Paul Hudson (http://climatesafety.org/keeping-denial-alive-at-the-bbc-the-falsehoods-of-paul-hudson/)

OwlHoot
7th January 2012, 01:15
Sense of proportion. Least it wasn't a deepwater well failing, killing 11 people and dumping 5 million barrels of crude into the Gulf of Mexico ....

If you measure a noisy signal starting from an outlier, yes you can get a flat or even negative short-term trend, you can also publically demonstrate your ignorance of statistical significance, and the irrelevance of short term trends (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/a-warming-pause/)...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

How the flip does he do it?

Never normally says a dickie bird - Yet one whisper of global warming and within a millisecond pjclarke is in there like Flynn :confused: