Itil Training

[lukemg]

Hi all, looking for some assistance, I am pursuing a Service Delivery direction and although I have the ITIL foundation, I really need the managers cert to get up a level or 2 and tap into the 400/day implementation contracts. I will be coughing for this myself, any suggestions for training courses, locations, companies. By preference a boot camp requiring pre-study to reach a certain level followed by a week or 2 intensive study and exam passing would suit.
Prefer North West England if poss.
All assistance appreciated.

[privateeye]

I just read a book and went straight in without even sitting the exams - doesn't hinder how much money I earn. I just highlighted more specifically all areas on my CV where I had used these skills.

[Francko]

I just read a book and went straight in without even sitting the exams - doesn't hinder how much money I earn. I just highlighted more specifically all areas on my CV where I had used these skills.

The manager exam is a rip-off. 2 weeks of mandatory course, no way of doing it by yourself..... 5k cost.... as a contractor I doubt it can be a worthwhile investment. Take a permie job, get this training the first month and then quit. :-)

[milanbenes]

get into .Net Luke

it's the future

Milan.

[Francko]

get into .Net Luke

it's the future

Milan.

MSF and MOF

Damn Milan code monkey.

[malvolio]

Managers is worth having, but only if you know the subject pretty well and have some experience of doing it in the real world, by which time its a bit late. Which is why I've never really bothered - if a 13-year long CV full of ITIL implementation doesn't impress them, a certificate probably won't either.

Also, it's getting a bit like Prince2 - every man and his dog is qualified whether or not they can organise anything. ITIL implementation is not about process, it's about people.

[privateeye]

Managers is worth having, but only if you know the subject pretty well and have some experience of doing it in the real world, by which time its a bit late. Which is why I've never really bothered - if a 13-year long CV full of ITIL implementation doesn't impress them, a certificate probably won't either.

Also, it's getting a bit like Prince2 - every man and his dog is qualified whether or not they can organise anything. ITIL implementation is not about process, it's about people.

I think its about becoming a master in one area, I specialise in Release, Change and Configuration Management. Its often an area that many clients try without the necessary experience and get it badly wrong so plenty of work there. For an example of how often it goes wrong speak to EDS or Pararseol.

[Francko]

I think its about becoming a master in one area, I specialise in Release, Change and Configuration Management. Its often an area that many clients try without the necessary experience and get it badly wrong so plenty of work there. For an example of how often it goes wrong speak to EDS or Pararseol.

But that's the practitioner exam, which you can also do it without any course. The manager exam is 2 weeks mandatory course. I see the point of the manager exam up to a certain extent. I mean once you have the foundation of the subject then it's up to you to put it in practice. 2 weeks of hard work will not certainly transform you into an experienced manager. I guess it should be used to consolidate what you already have, rather then using it as a start-up step of a higher level role (but then again, what's the point of making the course that hard?).

[lukemg]

Already in SDM role, doing second company implementation (whisper permie) but need to differentiate myself and add the cert to the experience to open some doors. No chance of company coughing for it. 10 years as a contractor I didn't keep my skills updated and saw them turn to commodity and become virtually worthless, trying to keep up or stay ahead this time.

[Clavdivs]

I was told by more than one agency that clients don't expect us poor contractors to have the Manager's Certificate 'cos it's so expensive to get. Just make sure your previous assignments involved some sort of ITIL experience, or at least mention it in your CV. Worked for me.