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RBS 'deliberately' doubled losses to £2bn in 'Alice in Wonderland' accounting

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    RBS 'deliberately' doubled losses to £2bn in 'Alice in Wonderland' accounting

    Mr Hester said the bank, which is 83pc owned by the state, had been "spooked" by the severity of the eurozone crisis into taking "an extra £1bn" of losses for 2011.

    "We got spooked by the dangers of the eurozone so we deliberately spent an extra £1bn that we hadn't planned on in losses to go even faster than we had planned in reducing risk.

    "You can say to me it's a slight Alice in Wonderland world, where extra losses is a good thing and I completely appreciate the difficulty in the communication of that, but those are the facts," said Mr Hester.

    The RBS chief admitted that since its £45bn bailout in 2008, the lender had taken losses when it could "afford" to and used profits to "finesse" its results.

    "We have to finesse it with our own profits as we go through. Each year we have, in a sense, a budget for making losses for clean-up – and the better or worse our profits are, the better or worse that budget is and the faster or slower that we can go," said Mr Hester, adding that the bank had "never" had sufficient capital to recognise all its losses upfront.

    Mr Hester's comments came as investor consultancy group, PIRC, said the current accounting standards for British banks had obscured "the true financial position" of RBS. PIRC claims the toxic assets of RBS are still overvalued by at least £10bn because of deficiencies in the IFRS accounting rules the bank uses.

    Alan MacDougall, managing director of PIRC, said there were "severe deficiencies" in the accounts of Britain's major banks.

    "If you know you are going to make a loss, you have an overvalued asset. The problem was that in 2007 RBS was not valuing its assets properly. It was using IFRS and waiting for the losses to happen," he said.

    "As we know they not merely overwhelmed the bank, they have overwhelmed the public finances."

    The issue of RBS's accounting adds to the controversy the banks faces after saying it would pay out £785m in staff bonuses, including £390m to employees in its investment banking arm. (AtW's comment: shareholders take losses and employees take bonuses, nice... not!)

    Mr Hester and Sir Philip Hampton, the bank's chairman, defended RBS's decision to continue paying bonuses despite the lender making its fourth-consecutive annual loss.

    "I understand people's anger and anxiety about inequalities in pay at a time when the economy is weak and many people are finding things tough. RBS alone cannot fix these wider issues if we are to achieve what is asked of us commercially. But we have led the way in changing how we pay our people," said Sir Philip.

    On average, staff in the investment banking division will received bonuses worth £22,941, compared with £50,114 the year before. Despite the fall in bonuses, the total average pay, which includes bonuses, at the investment banking unit was £112,000, down 26pc year-on-year.

    George Osborne, the Chancellor, said the figures showed the Government had succeeded in making the bank the "backmarker in the industry when it comes to pay".

    "Our main interest should be to get back as much money as possible for taxpayers and we must not let those that want to create an anti-business culture put that at risk," said Mr Osborne, in a statement on Thursday.

    Source: RBS 'deliberately' doubled losses to £2bn in 'Alice in Wonderland' accounting - Telegraph

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      Lehman Brothers

      No Bank-sters have learnt any lessons from the Lehman collapse. So letting another bank fail would have taught the ego-maniacs/psycopaths that run the banks and the governments in the western world nothing - they're all in each others pockets and corrupt!

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        Originally posted by Jeff Maginty View Post
        The UK government should have let one bank (e.g. Northern Rock) go bust, as a lesson to the banking industry. The ensuing panic by depositors of other banks could have been quickly nipped in the bud by a public announcement from the prime minister to say that the government would bail out the other banks, and that the one bank had been allowed to fail as a warning to others.

        Bankers would have been knocked off their pedestal and the banking industry would have received a badly-needed wake-up call.
        +1
        WJMS
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          Originally posted by Jeff Maginty View Post
          The UK government should have let one bank (e.g. Northern Rock) go bust, as a lesson to the banking industry. The ensuing panic by depositors of other banks could have been quickly nipped in the bud by a public announcement from the prime minister to say that the government would bail out the other banks, and that the one bank had been allowed to fail as a warning to others.
          What about all the people with savings in the chosen bank?
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins
          I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
          Originally posted by vetran
          Urine is quite nourishing

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            Originally posted by Jeff Maginty View Post
            The UK government should have let one bank (e.g. Northern Rock) go bust, as a lesson to the banking industry. The ensuing panic by depositors of other banks could have been quickly nipped in the bud by a public announcement from the prime minister to say that the government would bail out the other banks, and that the one bank had been allowed to fail as a warning to others.
            Erm, how is it a warning to the others if the PM subsequently announces that they will be bailed out?
            While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                Of course, the banking appologists cannot answer that, because the truth is that it's all an illusion, which is proven by the so called "tallent" having brought the entire western economies to the brink of destruction
                Well, yes but when an illusion is so universal it's a bit unreasonable to expect any single person, except those at the very top perhaps, to challenge it. Plenty of other illusions out there that are at least as damaging.

                PS I was going to give you a +ve rep but could not bring myself to rep somebody who does not like big fat lardy women.
                bloggoth

                If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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