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    Don't lie on your CV.

    This is so cool - I really want to believe...

    Man Claims to Fly With Custom-Built Bird Wings | Wired Science | Wired.com



    but

    Bird-Man's Resume Doesn't Check Out: 'Nobody Knows Him' | Wired Science | Wired.com

    He lied on his CV, so apparently he must be a fake. Boo.

    #2
    Well from what I see the physics doesn't add up.

    To stay up he needs, on average, this is a flapping motion after all, to supply a force equal to his (+ machine) weight. At first I was dubious that the puny human pectoral muscles could provide say 100kg of force continually (had visions of those gymnasts that can perform a human cross), but apparently he says he uses motors controlled by a Wii.

    So the wing area is given as 15 m^2 (1.) and with that he needs to transfer enough momentum per second to the air to equal his weight. Just guessing looking at the clip, it's say one wing beat a second and that works out at 18.75 N, compared to the circa 1000N needed to stay up. Not even close, his wing is way too small for hu-mans.

    Fake.

    1. Technology News: Technology: Birdman Takes to the Sky on a Wing and a Wii

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      #3
      He must have taken advice from Cojak.
      <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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        #4
        Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
        Well from what I see the physics doesn't add up.

        To stay up he needs, on average, this is a flapping motion after all, to supply a force equal to his (+ machine) weight. At first I was dubious that the puny human pectoral muscles could provide say 100kg of force continually (had visions of those gymnasts that can perform a human cross), but apparently he says he uses motors controlled by a Wii.

        So the wing area is given as 15 m^2 (1.) and with that he needs to transfer enough momentum per second to the air to equal his weight. Just guessing looking at the clip, it's say one wing beat a second and that works out at 18.75 N, compared to the circa 1000N needed to stay up. Not even close, his wing is way too small for hu-mans.

        Fake.

        1. Technology News: Technology: Birdman Takes to the Sky on a Wing and a Wii
        Which on reflection may be a bit harsh considering not many birds can hover or take off vertically either.

        It turns out that a simple formula relates most winged things, whether they be flapping or fixed, insect or 747:
        0.3 * airDensity * V^2 * surfaceArea = weight (Mg)

        Which for a 15 m^2 surface area equates to a horizontal speed of 13 m/s, or 48 km/h. Still fake. I imagine one could stay up for quite a while with a wing of that size once airborne and up to speed though.

        http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/chapte...13137chap1.pdf

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          #5
          Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
          Which on reflection may be a bit harsh considering not many birds can hover or take off vertically either.

          It turns out that a simple formula relates most winged things, whether they be flapping or fixed, insect or 747:
          0.3 * airDensity * V^2 * surfaceArea = weight (Mg)

          Which for a 15 m^2 surface area equates to a horizontal speed of 13 m/s, or 48 km/h. Still fake. I imagine he could stay up for quite a while with a wing of that size once airborne and up to speed though.

          http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/chapte...13137chap1.pdf
          You sad git. Stick to economics.

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            #6
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            You sad git. Stick to economics.
            Yeah, you can't go wrong with economics.

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              #7
              I don't recognise his mother tongue but I think I recognise some words at the end of that clip.
              Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                Well from what I see the physics doesn't add up.

                To stay up he needs, on average, this is a flapping motion after all, to supply a force equal to his (+ machine) weight. At first I was dubious that the puny human pectoral muscles could provide say 100kg of force continually (had visions of those gymnasts that can perform a human cross), but apparently he says he uses motors controlled by a Wii.

                So the wing area is given as 15 m^2 (1.) and with that he needs to transfer enough momentum per second to the air to equal his weight. Just guessing looking at the clip, it's say one wing beat a second and that works out at 18.75 N, compared to the circa 1000N needed to stay up. Not even close, his wing is way too small for hu-mans. ...
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                  Which on reflection may be a bit harsh considering not many birds can hover or take off vertically either.

                  It turns out that a simple formula relates most winged things, whether they be flapping or fixed, insect or 747:
                  0.3 * airDensity * V^2 * surfaceArea = weight (Mg)
                  Which for a 15 m^2 surface area equates to a horizontal speed of 13 m/s, or 48 km/h. Still fake. I imagine one could stay up for quite a while with a wing of that size once airborne and up to speed though.

                  http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/chapte...13137chap1.pdf
                  God, I'd hate to get stuck in a lift with you.
                  What happens in General, stays in General.
                  You know what they say about assumptions!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                    God, I'd hate to get stuck in a lift with you.
                    Why? You're the fat bastard. He'd be scared stiff you were hungry!

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