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The Mattoid
12th June 2012, 10:43
I am having a lot of trouble getting payment and am thinking of starting a website about this particular organisation publishing all our communications regarding this invoice.
I know there are many other contractors also having trouble getting payment who I might invite to join me on the site. The sole purpose is to name and shame to help others avoid this situation.
I do not intend to make any personal judgement on the case, solely reveal the date of the invoice and the communication between us. I am aware the law is loaded on the side of the employer on the whole, where do I stand.
Thankyou

cojak
12th June 2012, 10:52
Have you tried going through the normal method of dunning and debt-recovery?

(Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you not to, but I think that you should go through the usual procedures first and save your heavy artillery if they fail...)

northernladuk
12th June 2012, 15:58
I don't think naming and shaming will help your cause to be honest and is more likely to backfire spectacularly IMO. I don't see other business's doing this when they don't get paid so doesn't strike me as being particularly professional. Obviously I don't know the situation but I would proceed with caution.

There are plenty of threads on non-payment here right up to court proceedings and every option before then. Try having a search for them and doing it properly first?

EDIT : I would think carefully about your situation and the terminology you use as well. If you start a thread up complaining using the term 'employer' you are more likely to invite an IR35 investigation than you are get your money.

oscarose
12th June 2012, 18:33
I am having a lot of trouble getting payment and am thinking of starting a website about this particular organisation publishing all our communications regarding this invoice.
I know there are many other contractors also having trouble getting payment who I might invite to join me on the site. The sole purpose is to name and shame to help others avoid this situation.
I do not intend to make any personal judgement on the case, solely reveal the date of the invoice and the communication between us. I am aware the law is loaded on the side of the employer on the whole, where do I stand.
Thankyou

I'd park this idea at the 'thinking' stage...
Hope this helps.
OscaR

Wanderer
12th June 2012, 20:55
The sole purpose is to name and shame to help others avoid this situation.

Name and Shame won't work, you will get someone with deep pockets instructing a lawyer's to sue you for libel and then your website will be shutdown by the ISP or yourself for fear of getting a massive legal bill. Also, how are you going to know that the people you "shame" are actually in the wrong?

You are much better to focus your anger on documenting a proper dunning process and publish anonymised stories of how people recovered their unpaid debts.

Do a search for dunning on this web site and you will find a lot of advice for starters.

Safe Collections
15th June 2012, 09:34
If you are still hoping to receive payment our suggestion would be to avoid naming and shaming.

Whilst it would no doubt be massively satisfying, trust us when we say it won't help you get paid and will more than likely get you into legal difficulties.

And as northernlad rightly points out, using the wrong terminology could bring HMRC knocking!