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    Project death march

    Second week into gig, project scheduled to fail in 6 months, therefore will get extension.

    Permies seem relieved, happy for me to take carry the can for failing to meet impossible project deadline.

    Tried to relay thoughts to PM but PM not interested.

    Project would struggle to meet deadline with three coders let alone just the one.

    Permie coders, mostly architect level on super duper salaries happy to stay away and protect their fiefdom.

    Project issues begining to drive me a little loopy, leading to a failure to write sentences.

    dot dash dot...
    Last edited by insur; 1 August 2012, 10:31.

    #2
    Originally posted by insur View Post
    Second week into gig, project scheduled to fail in 6 months, therefore will get extension.

    Permies seem relieved, happy for me to take carry the can for failing to meet impossible project deadline.

    Tried to relay thoughts to PM but PM not interested.

    Project would struggle to meet deadline with three coders let alone just the one.

    Permie coders, mostly architect level on super duper salaries happy to stay away and protect their fiefdom.

    Project issues beginingg to drive me a little loopy, leading to a failure to write sentences.

    dot dash dot...
    Ask yourself what Suity would do?

    Note the signs of nervous breakdown and run like the wind
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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      #3
      Originally posted by insur View Post
      Second week into gig, project scheduled to fail in 6 months, therefore will get extension.

      Permies seem relieved, happy for me to take carry the can for failing to meet impossible project deadline.

      Tried to relay thoughts to PM but PM not interested.

      Project would struggle to meet deadline with three coders let alone just the one.

      Permie coders, mostly architect level on super duper salaries happy to stay away and protect their fiefdom.

      Project issues begining to drive me a little loopy, leading to a failure to write sentences.

      dot dash dot...
      Waterfall project?

      Waterfall 2006 - International Conference on Sequential Development

      Leave, keep your sanity and also important; get something 21st century on your CV and avoid getting these big brown waterfall skidmarks on it.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #4
        Originally posted by insur View Post
        Second week into gig, project scheduled to fail in 6 months, therefore will get extension.

        Permies seem relieved, happy for me to take carry the can for failing to meet impossible project deadline.

        Tried to relay thoughts to PM but PM not interested.

        Project would struggle to meet deadline with three coders let alone just the one.

        Permie coders, mostly architect level on super duper salaries happy to stay away and protect their fiefdom.

        Project issues begining to drive me a little loopy, leading to a failure to write sentences.

        dot dash dot...
        If the PM will not listen, is there anyone else senior in the IT/dev team that is interested? A team lead, dev manager?

        I'd simply drop into email, conversation with whoever necessary so that someone pays attention, even if it is the customer.

        It might get your bollocks booted and potentially bagged from the role, but that's better than being a scapegoat later.

        Otherwise, make sure you send a weekly email report summary to the PM where you end with how much you think the project will be finished by? eg 60% complete by Delivery Date because of XYZ reasons.

        Then you have plenty of evidence that you alerted management ahead of the failure date.

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          #5
          Was given certain assurances at interview time, transpires it was all bull.

          While I can retain my sanity, shall invoice and carry on.

          Shall teach them not to bull sh*t the next chap at interview stage!

          Earning some dollars and helping the next chappie to gig here.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            Waterfall project?

            Waterfall 2006 - International Conference on Sequential Development

            Leave, keep your sanity and also important; get something 21st century on your CV and avoid getting these big brown waterfall skidmarks on it.
            It's a kind of nothing approach here. I was hired to do specific code changes that permies (apparently) do not have time to do. The work involves making changes that impact the entire system. No one has scoped the changes or their impact.

            It's a legacy system, the code for which has not been changed for up to a decade, as it just works.

            Basically been told what they expect in a couple of sentences, the PM definitely did not understand what he was telling me, so he kept it short.

            On the project plan this piece of work appears as a foot note.

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              #7
              Originally posted by eek View Post
              Ask yourself what Suity would do?

              Note the signs of nervous breakdown and run like the wind
              Well, rather more pertinently ask what would Suity do NOW? Right back then I would probably come on here, piss and moan, get pissed lots and struggle into work with a sore head and try and muddle through.

              We really need more info. Why is the project doomed to fail? Are the requirements gathered? Is there a baseline? Scoping statement? PMP? Tonnes of tulip you can ask the PM for. So ask. In writing. Set a deadline.

              Do you report weekly? If not, start. Planned activities, unplanned activities and time spent against each one. RAID log etc. Distribute this weekly to the PM, and senior devs.

              Arrange a meeting to discuss the risks and issues you have raised. Press for decisions, mitigation actions. Suggest some of these. Be prepared for negativity at first, but once you start getting some shape to it people will buy in and with this momentum you can come out of this as the hero.

              Your PM sounds like he is out of his depth. You have to be careful not to tread on his toes, but with every weekly report, and these RAID log meetings you are giving him more and more chances to help you. Minute these meetings and again circulate the minutes.

              If after a while the issues are not being dealt with, quietly have a word with the project sponsor. Explain that as it stands good money is being thrown after bad. Don't use it as a moaning session, just give him the top 3 issues and your resolutions. These resolutions have to be credible, remember no sacred cows.

              By papering over your arse in this way, being seen to be positive and constructive you will win friends and get support.

              The project I am working on hasn't got a chance in hell of being delivered in time, but I am going through the motions and doing things properly (within reason). When the crunch comes, I will have to manage their tears, but in reality it was their project before I got there, and it was they who failed to plan, so from the moment I got hold of it I was always trying to answer the question "how long will this take?" but again the requirements I inherited were woeful so you ask for time to get the requirements straight. If they keep asking for deadlines, don't give them. Explain that you don't have enough at your disposal to give accurate deadlines, explain what you need from them in order to give accurate deadlines.

              It is possible to be brutally firm without being aggressive, and people do appreciate this.

              Worst case, you get tulipcanned and the next guy walks into a neatly managed project, in which case you did your bit and took one for the team - that's contracting. But you got experience of sorting out a buggers muddle that you can put on your cv and take with you.

              Try and buck up, its not easy to be positive when all around you are sloping their shoulders but you can play them at their own game as I have outlined here.

              Best of luck mate

              The New Improved Suity
              Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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                #8
                Originally posted by insur View Post
                Second week into gig, project scheduled to fail in 6 months, therefore will get extension.
                It's a desperate situation, that's maybe why they decided to give in and hire a highly paid contractor. But it would be much more efficient if they hired the experienced people at the start to create projects, rather than be reactive and only hire them when things start to crash.

                Originally posted by insur View Post
                Tried to relay thoughts to PM but PM not interested.
                Something I have noticed about PMs is that they think on a higher, more strategical level than humble folk like you or me. PMs have to consider broader issues like, how can we spin this project on as long as is humanly possible? The more senior the PM, the more strategical the thought process, until by the time you get to the executive level it is all financials.

                Now, if you actually have your face to the flames all you care about is putting out those flames as efficiently as possible, but maybe you are missing the Greater Good?
                Der going over der to get der der's.

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                  #9
                  insur
                  making the assumption that you are the single coder.

                  we all know that most projects can be finished in 3 months, given a decent spec and some decent back up.
                  A monster project might take 6, and a fckng unbeliveable cyber bastid from hell might take longer.

                  so if you have identified the problem so soon, why worry ?
                  leave it for 12 weeks.
                  If its number 1, lack of spec or back up - you will have a few months to get it sorted, then an extension

                  If its a major whopper of a project, you can start asking for more coders. by which time you will be established, therefore lead dev, plus the inevitable extension.

                  notice the guys who are urging you to cya and act now are all pm types

                  they want the devs to do the work, PLUS take their responsibility, PLUS



                  fck em. fck em all


                  (\__/)
                  (>'.'<)
                  ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                    #10
                    Are you able to learn anything new or develop a desirable skill.

                    If so, what is the problem? You are getting paid well to train yourself up.

                    If the project goes wrong, so what? You notified them every week about it (I would email the PM and anyone else who you could claim has an interest) and they did nothing.

                    Keep invoicing, keep learing and know that regardless of everyone else you are behaving in a professional manner.
                    "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

                    https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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