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Pondlife
5th August 2012, 19:03
Obviously everyone knows about Bolt but the caribbean islands seem to be over represented in the 100m heats.

Anyone know why?

Cliphead
5th August 2012, 19:10
Twenty-eight of the last 38 world record holders in the men's 100-meter dash have been black athletes, and researchers at two universities think they know why.

Linky (http://www.livescience.com/10716-scientists-theorize-black-athletes-run-fastest.html)

Pondlife
5th August 2012, 19:15
Yes but why island guys?:confused:

Cliphead
5th August 2012, 19:17
Yes but why island guys?:confused:

Seems their ancestry is west African and that makes the difference.

SimonMac
5th August 2012, 20:16
I know the Kenyans et al are the best long distance runners as when they are training the got lions chasing them!

MarillionFan
5th August 2012, 20:48
Seems their ancestry is west African and that makes the difference.

It's cultural. Success breeds success and they're all well into sprinting. It's like the classic why are there no black swimmers. Genetic? Or cultural?

Look at the cricket. They dominated for years in the West Indirs and then their heads were turned towards basketball. Now that's what kids want to do.

BrilloPad
5th August 2012, 20:53
Success breeds success

Very true. Which is why is is so annoying that the UK has gone steadily downhill over the last 100 years after several hundred years of world domination.

SimonMac
5th August 2012, 20:58
Normally when a black man runs that fast in East London the police shoot him!

mudskipper
5th August 2012, 20:58
Do your kids do sport, Brillo?

From my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Aspergers, the discipline and repetitive nature would seem ideally suited.

MarillionFan
5th August 2012, 20:59
Do your kids do sport, Brillo?

From my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Aspergers, the discipline and repetitive nature would seem ideally suited.

Who do you think posts in the counting thread?

mudskipper
5th August 2012, 21:00
Who do you think posts in the counting thread?

Can we have an analysis of how many posts each forum member has made? By teatime?

BrilloPad
5th August 2012, 21:01
Do your kids do sport, Brillo?

From my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Aspergers, the discipline and repetitive nature would seem ideally suited.

I keep trying to encourage them - but no joy. Though the eldest lad has a trial for the local swimming club in September. But you are right - it should be ideal.

BrilloPad
5th August 2012, 21:06
Who do you think posts in the counting thread?

BrilloPad 5,815
oscarose 498
eek 434
Gonzo 414
zara_backdog 383
hyperD 347
shaunbhoy 341
miffy 302
moorfield 194
MarillionFan 190

HTH

mudskipper
5th August 2012, 21:15
You should take up geocaching.

I'm averagely sad, with some 500+ geocaches to my name (I did 5 today). But there are cachers out there with 25K+ caches. You could be one of them.

Edit: And my nettle stings still hurt. :(

SimonMac
5th August 2012, 21:34
You should take up geocaching.

I'm averagely sad, with some 500+ geocaches to my name (I did 5 today). But there are cachers out there with 25K+ caches. You could be one of them.

Edit: And my nettle stings still hurt. :(

You know whats good for stings, ammonia!

I am willing to pee on you, for your own good

Not that I am still bitter about EO's fixing this years CUK University Challenge

SimonMac
5th August 2012, 21:44
Usain Bolt runs at 31mph which sounds good, but if he hits a child there's a 40% chance they'll die.

Cliphead
5th August 2012, 21:51
Usain Bolt runs at 31mph which sounds good, but if he hits a child there's a 40% chance they'll die.

Both of them?

Moscow Mule
5th August 2012, 23:31
There was a great documentary on the BBC about the history of sprinting and how the "power" sprinting phase started (originally thought lighter body types were better iirc).

IMO, it's a mix of genetics and culture - success breeds success.

Pondlife
6th August 2012, 06:58
Having a looky at a stats site it seems that Lennox Miller who won sprint medals in 68 & 72 and Don Quarrie (76, 80) must have kicked off a huge interest.

original PM
6th August 2012, 07:26
Having a looky at a stats site it seems that Lennox Miller who won sprint medals in 68 & 72 and Don Quarrie (76, 80) must have kicked off a huge interest.

How much of it is to do with the fact that many of these guys would have very little/nothing/live on or near the poverty line if they did not become succesful atheletes?

Pondlife
6th August 2012, 07:30
How much of it is to do with the fact that many of these guys would have very little/nothing/live on or near the poverty line if they did not become succesful atheletes?

True but that's also the case for many countries/people.

I just thought it was interesting that a group of tiny islands produce a disproportionately high number of sprinters at the top level.

EternalOptimist
6th August 2012, 08:04
Usain Bolt runs at 31mph which sounds good, but if he hits a child there's a 40% chance they'll die.

We have some contenders on my current project. running down the boss and jumping to conclusions are guaranteed golds
throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a possible



:rolleyes:

d000hg
6th August 2012, 11:41
It's their national sport rather than a specialist event everywhere else. Just like how S. Korea always dominate archery... simply they put far more focus on it like we do with sports like cricket and rugby.

Raoul Duke
6th August 2012, 12:44
Jamaica produces the best sprinters in the world by some distance. Per capita, it currently has 80 x the number of top sprinters versus the USA. (Both had 3 athletes in the 100m final, Jamaica population is 3m, USA 250m), Linford Christie is Jamaican, Jess Ennis is half Jamaican.

African people were brought to the Caribbean as slaves, without the slave trade they would not now be indigenous to the Caribbean. When slaves were selected to be brought to the Caribbean, certain traits were desirable e.g. physical strength for the manual labour that they were expected to do. These men and women were **selected** on the basis of these desirable attributes.

Fast forward a few hundred years and voila: Usain Bolt et al are the best in the world.

ChrisPackit
6th August 2012, 14:26
When I was in Barbados a number of years ago, we drove past this local guy who was completely starkers naked and the taxi driver commented he was a well known fruit cake. My wife, however, commented on the disproportionate size of his manhood. :tired - He looked like 'Jake The Peg' - So my suggestion would be they are cheating as they have an extra leg over many of the other competitors ....

EternalOptimist
6th August 2012, 14:28
When I was in Barbados a number of years ago, we drove past this local guy who was completely starkers naked and the taxi driver commented he was a well known fruit cake. My wife, however, commented on the disproportionate size of his manhood. :tired - He looked like 'Jake The Peg' - So my suggestion would be they are cheating as they have an extra leg over many of the other competitors ....

yep, we drove past him as well. Mrs EO looked disparagingly and said, 'must be cold out there tonight'



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