Deterent????

[John Galt]

Gordo in trouble over Trident upgrade

Here we are trying to deter other countries from developing nuclear capabilites whilst we are planning on spending 25bn on Trident. Not sure we have had a nuclear arms debate for a while so on you go. Personally I think nuclear weapons in the hands of the North Koreans etc etc is no more dangerous than having them in the hands of George W.

[whyme]

Given that the only recent security measures have been against British born individuals in the Midlands and Yorkshire (we invaded Iraq, they did not start it) who exactly is he trying to deter?

[Troll]

A sign of getting old is when you remember the Trident debate the first time around.

I'm pretty sure that:

1: It's not independent as in we could only launch with the Americans approval

2: Not sure what it is meant to deter anymore

[Mailman]

Personally I think nuclear weapons in the hands of the North Koreans etc etc is no more dangerous than having them in the hands of George W.

That is possibly one of the most ignorant statements I have ever seen on this forum!

The problem with countries like NK and Iran getting ahold of Nukes is that they dont not have any checks and balances in place to ensure these weapons arent abused.

You can go on about america being a totalitarian state as much as you want BUT the fact is GW cannot touch those weapons without Uncle Bob on the corner street knowing about it.

I wouldnt have a problem with NK or Iran having Nukes BUT that would only happen once they have an open and accountable government.

Mailman

[Troll]

Given that the only recent security measures have been against British born individuals in the Midlands and Yorkshire (we invaded Iraq, they did not start it) who exactly is he trying to deter?

They were at it long before Iraq 1 or 2

[John Galt]

[QUOTE=Mailman]That is possibly one of the most ignorant statements I have ever seen on this forum!

The problem with countries like NK and Iran getting ahold of Nukes is that they dont not have any checks and balances in place to ensure these weapons arent abused.

You can go on about america being a totalitarian state as much as you want BUT the fact is GW cannot touch those weapons without Uncle Bob on the corner street knowing about it.

I wouldnt have a problem with NK or Iran having Nukes BUT that would only happen once they have an open and accountable government.


It is not ignorant it is my opinion. I think GW is a far greater threat to global security than the likes of Iran or North Korea - Iraq has proved that. Do you honestly think that the US would allow these countries to have nuclear weapons anyway - Iraq no WMD; Iran are in the early stages of development and the states are all over them like a rash and threatening premptive strikes rather than debate. You are right GW can't touch the weapons without everyone knowing about it - bit late after he's done it though isn't it?

[threaded]

1: It's not independent as in we could only launch with the Americans approval

It's worse than that. When 'we' decide what target we want to hit we have to 'phone up the yanks, on a premium rate number, tell them which rocket, which target, the launch date, and two randomly chosen letters from our code phrase.

[mcquiggd]

And even that will soon be outsourced to India...

'Hello Sir, may I have the name of the city you wish to destroy?'

'Pyŏngyang'

'Could you be spelling that please sir..?'

'P'

'B for Beligerance..?

'No.. P for Pacifism...'

...

time passes

...


'I am sorry sir but the computer is not accepting that name. Please call back again tomorrow... would you like to know the balance on your current account instead...?'

[Dundeegeorge]

Que?

Given that the only recent security measures have been against British born individuals in the Midlands and Yorkshire (we invaded Iraq, they did not start it) who exactly is he trying to deter?

Would you explain that one please?

[whyme]

Would you explain that one please?

Well, all the recent anti-terrorism arrests have targetted British born people.

Britain has not officially started a war in a long time, we "liberate" others, therefore we clearly have no natural enemies, except for the aforementioned "terrorists". So, who are we deterring?

Or are you saying we are being lied to?