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mos
16th November 2012, 13:32
Last year contractors at Barclays were required to take 10 days off in December. How about this year?

Notascooby
16th November 2012, 13:33
Certainly the case at LBG (subject to project needs etc etc) I'm delighted, time with the family.

kaiser78
16th November 2012, 13:36
I am at an financial blue chip org and all contractors are the same as well, finishing on 14th December.

kaiser78
16th November 2012, 13:37
Certainly the case at LBG (subject to project needs etc etc) I'm delighted, time with the family.

+1 def !

northernladuk
16th November 2012, 13:37
You are not forced to take compulsory holidays. Permies are given that. You are ask not to work for a period of time. There is a big difference with IR35 looming over you. One can be a pointer inside, having it reworded could be a nice pointer outside.

mos
16th November 2012, 13:40
Happy for you. :banana:

I have not heard anything yet ... If that is the requirement I would like to know ASAP to make plans...

Support Monkey
16th November 2012, 13:41
just been asked if i will come in Christmas eve BOO!!, but then off until new year HOORAY!!

Notascooby
16th November 2012, 13:41
You are not forced to take compulsory holidays. Permies are given that. You are ask not to work for a period of time. There is a big difference with IR35 looming over you. One can be a pointer inside, having it reworded could be a nice pointer outside.

My contract will be terminated on 21st Dec and a new one started on 7th Jan.

You knew what he meant :spank:

northernladuk
16th November 2012, 13:45
My contract will be terminated on 21st Dec and a new one started on 7th Jan.

You knew what he meant :spank:

Can't assume anything with some of the numpties that post on this forum. I assumed lithium had a clue how to run his companys' finances properly at first but look what happened there.....

mos
16th November 2012, 13:52
You are not forced to take compulsory holidays. Permies are given that. You are ask not to work for a period of time. There is a big difference with IR35 looming over you. One can be a pointer inside, having it reworded could be a nice pointer outside.

Point taken. Terminology aside, is it customary each year for every contractor?

Scrag Meister
16th November 2012, 14:02
Point taken. Terminology aside, is it customary each year for every contractor?

No, never happened to me, yet.

eek
16th November 2012, 14:14
Can't assume anything with some of the numpties that post on this forum. I assumed lithium had a clue how to run his companys' finances properly at first but look what happened there.....

You mean I can't just automatically declare a dividend of everything in the company bank account whenever I run short of readies?

Why not?

bless 'em all
16th November 2012, 17:10
I'm just waiting for the 'All contractors must not attend between 21st Dec and 2nd January' email.

11 days off and IR35 gold-dust.

There's no mention of leave or holiday. :smile

centurian
16th November 2012, 18:10
You knew what he meant :spank:

NLUK is right here - the wording is very important.

If the formal notice from the pimp is worded correctly, then that e-mail can be used as a very strong case against IR35.

However, if it says "we want you to take a holiday" (or even mentions the word holiday), then that will carry considerably less weight.

kingcook
16th November 2012, 18:51
You are not forced to take compulsory holidays. Permies are given that.

Be careful... the Permie Speak Anti-Police (http://forums.contractoruk.com/members/wanderer.html) will be on your case!

d000hg
16th November 2012, 19:01
NLUK is right here - the wording is very important.

If the formal notice from the pimp is worded correctly, then that e-mail can be used as a very strong case against IR35.

However, if it says "we want you to take a holiday" (or even mentions the word holiday), then that will carry considerably less weight.Surely if they're saying you can't work and they aren't going to pay you, the wording is not the issue - the actual working practice is.

centurian
16th November 2012, 19:11
Surely if they're saying you can't work and they aren't going to pay you, the wording is not the issue - the actual working practice is.

Wording is always an issue - particularly as you would need to present the e-mail as evidence of why you think MOO doesn't apply. Consider two sample pimp-mails, which are at the extreme ends of the spectrum.

"ClientCo has requested that you take a 2 week holiday"

"ClientCo has stated that they will not be requesting any services from LtdCo for a period of two weeks"

Which one would you rather take into court...

TestMangler
16th November 2012, 20:05
Certainly the case at LBG (subject to project needs etc etc) I'm delighted, time with the family.

-1

Not the case for me. No time off and mega pissed about it.

Why do program managers think that filling little coloured lines in over xmas and new year is a way of putting a project on track :mad It's all WFH for me right enough.

Was fair looking forward to the two weeks off.

JaybeeInCUK
16th November 2012, 20:26
-1

Not the case for me. No time off and mega pissed about it.

Why do program managers think that filling little coloured lines in over xmas and new year is a way of putting a project on track :mad It's all WFH for me right enough.

Was fair looking forward to the two weeks off.

Sorry to read that mate.

In Permie-land now and got 2 weeks off 24th-7th, although for personal reasons may not be coming back to the job at all.

Halo Jones
16th November 2012, 21:09
As a happy permie I will be taking paid leave from 20.12.12 to 07.01.13, 18 days off & TBH I really need the break, bring it on.. :cheers:

Commiserations for those not getting the leave / suspension of contract they wanted :hug:

mos
16th November 2012, 21:30
As a happy permie I will be taking paid leave from 20.12.12 to 07.01.13, 18 days off & TBH I really need the break, bring it on.. :cheers:

Commiserations for those not getting the leave / suspension of contract they wanted :hug:

:wave:

Scrag Meister
19th November 2012, 07:54
I have checked with my sponsoring manager at ClientCo, and he is not aware of any requirement for contractors not to be working over Christmas and New Year.

cojak
19th November 2012, 08:29
I have checked with my sponsoring manager at ClientCo, and he is not aware of any requirement for contractors not to be working over Christmas and New Year.

+1

However I have informed the client that I will not be available to them over Christmas week.

Bring it on! :glasses