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22nd June 2005, 09:30
No i'm not talking about loosing your virginity before any of you start.

Going to america in 2 weeks because recently got mrs cooperinliverp00l a new kitchen and me a new TV we are having to fly economy.

I have never flown with Virgin so wondered what they are like and what are the chances of me getting a seat upgrade to business or 1st class (i'm 6ft tall with long legs)

Do you get free drinks in economy ?

22nd June 2005, 09:47
Your chances of getting to first class are about nil :)

However...there is no harm in asking if you can be upgraded. I always ask and it has worked once (once being better than never :) .

Not sure about the drinks though, I would suspect that they will be free. Best to check their website and see what you get in cattle class.



22nd June 2005, 09:50
Is there a good way to sweet talk them before asking for the upgrade or should i just come out with it and say.



22nd June 2005, 09:58
I have never flown on Virgin but have flown many times on American, a couple of times on Delta and once on BA. All charge for alcoholic drinks in cattle class. When I first started going over the pond I used to travel business class all the time and often used to get moved up to first. The trick is to travel outside the normal commuting days. Try to avoid Mondays and Fridays as most people on business tend to go out there for the full week.

You could try the old honeymoon/anniversary trick and blag an upgrade. Obviously this only works if you are travelling with somebody of the opposite sex.

Since 911 and the drop in profits for the airlines, I think the airlines have reduced the number of upgrades. Last year I was travelling to Orange County on a regular basis and always in cattle class. Despite being a platinum AA member I only got one upgrade. Often there were seats free in business but they just didn't seem to want to upgrade anybody.

22nd June 2005, 10:20
I’ve never been charged for drinks in BA economy. Be very surprised if Virgin charge.

To get an upgrade you generally have to look the part, and it helps if you are in the appropriate frequent flyer club. Was once coming back from Sydney. Waiting at the gate when the staff arrived (all men and all looking very stressed). A very attractive Aussie girl wandered off to the toilet and came back having changed into an incredibly tight top. She wandered up to the gate staff and came back with an upgrade.

This site (http://www.v-flyer.com/) should have the answers.

22nd June 2005, 10:25
Thers no such thing as a free upgared on a flight from the UK.

If you get upgraded from cattle class to luxury class you immediatley get stung for the higher rate APD, so the airline gives you a tax bill for 30 quid to pay.

Having said that, I agree with the other poster. The chances of someone who has no prior record of flying Virgin, booked in standard economy has less chance of an upgrade than winning the lottery.


22nd June 2005, 10:27
i'm 6ft tall with long legs

Does not compute, it's a universally accepted fact all scousers are 5ft 6 shell suited skinheads

22nd June 2005, 10:32
I've flown Virgin to America & am 6' 4" tall - but had to pay extra to secure an 'enhanced' legroom seat - basically a seat by the door

22nd June 2005, 11:03
"Is there a good way to sweet talk them before asking for the upgrade or should i just come out with it and say."

Pay for it you tight coont. If you cannot afford to pay the upgrade you are obviously a dismal failure.

MF in 'Business class all the way for me' Mode.

22nd June 2005, 11:07
If you get upgraded from cattle class to luxury class you immediatley get stung for the higher rate APD, so the airline gives you a tax bill for 30 quid to pay.

Eh? I've never been charged. I get upgraded regularly by KLM (although on the flight from Bristol to Amsterdam the difference is basically a curtain). Still, at least I get to use the lounge (which is 3rd party at Bristol and KLM get billed 18 quid for).

22nd June 2005, 11:34
Agreed. I've been upgraded twice on BA travelling from London to the US and have not been asked for any more dosh. It's purely at the discretion of the check-in or gate staff.

Make sure you ask them if they can mark you as SFU (Suitable for Upgrade) then if seats become available you'll be in with a shout.

22nd June 2005, 11:47
If you want a seat with extra legroom on Virgin (by the door basically), it will cost you about £30 - but you have to get there early. Sometimes they will let you pre-book this seat, but most of the time it will be given to some short b@stard for free if no-one pays for it. Getting upgraded is unlikely if you have not flown them before and are not a member of their Frequent Flyer program. Drinks are free in cattle class. Check out www.virgin-atlantic.com for details.

22nd June 2005, 11:53
On american you can go on their website and pick your own seat. I used to book my seat and then login and move myself to an exit row.

22nd June 2005, 14:04
If you try to justify a seat with extra leg room becuse of you height, you will have no hope as almost everone tries it.

Just be chatty, polite and dressed reasonably smartly (No shell suites. This has worked a couple of times for me

22nd June 2005, 14:07
You say free drinks is that soft or alcholic drinks.

NO SHELL SUIT just dropped my best one in the dry cleaners for a gold service ready for the big day