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    No contract until start date!?!

    Right got an offer (albeit verbal) from a bank. Agent said that the outsourced HR team (Hays IT) will provide the contract on the first day ("as it may take a while to get references from the bank") ... cr*p ...

    Never heard of this practice and not willing to take the risk - he says that Hays do this at JP Morgan and UBS ...

    Sounds like bollo**s to me ...

    Anyone had any such experience as getting bad vibes from this agent and the whole situation ...

    Thoughts appreciated as never heard of such a potential scam ...

    #2
    As a starting point tell them that you are opting into the conduct of employment agents act until you have seen and accepted the contract and all T&Cs.

    NOTE: You may find the contracto goes South rather rapidly.
    I am not qualified to give the above advice!

    The original point and click interface by
    Smith and Wesson.

    Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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      #3
      Total bolloxs
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #4
        I have started half my contracts without the paperwork being signed. Its common.
        The reason is usually the speed between advert,interview,start date.
        If the agency is inserting a delay for a different reason then you are right to get the heebies

        (\__/)
        (>'.'<)
        ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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          #5
          Started my current one and got the contract on the 3rd day.
          _____________________________________________
          Go to bed with itchy ar$e wake up with smelly fingers

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            #6
            No, this is not all right (unless you've worked with this agent before, but I'd still have my doubts...).

            "Why?" I hear you ask...

            If you say "yes" without the "subject to T&Cs" caveat -THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU A START DATE OR PAYMENT IN ORDER TO HOLD YOU TO THE VERBAL ACCEPTANCE.

            This means that they can string you along for the duration and if you take another contract they would be in a strong position to take you to court. And win.

            (It's been done and discussed on this very forum - all we could do was sympathise with the poor naive sod).
            "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
            - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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              #7
              Hays...

              need you know more?

              Well my experience with Hays was pretty awfull anyway.
              http://nickmueller.blogspot.com/

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                #8
                Been dealing with Hays via another agent - I'm already fed up after 1 week and thinking about forgetting the whole thing ...

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                  #9
                  B0llocks - I just spent two years working at JP Morgan and while they do check refrences they don't hold contracts up for it. Plus I also know JP Morgan now only use two agencies and Hay's wasn't one of them (Least not 3 months ago when I left).
                  Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by snaw
                    B0llocks - I just spent two years working at JP Morgan and while they do check refrences they don't hold contracts up for it. Plus I also know JP Morgan now only use two agencies and Hay's wasn't one of them (Least not 3 months ago when I left).
                    Wrong! Wrong!! and wrong!!! I too have done a recent stretch with JP and I have some friends still contracting there. All agents will tell you that they are preferred suppliers. Out of eight contractors in the team there were six different agents, Each department in JP has some autonomy in selecting agents so the policies will vary. There were delays in engaging some of the contractors due to the credit and security checks. However what surprised me was that one of the contractors was a FTV Arab who produced a piece of paper saying he was checked in his own country. HR accepted that.
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