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Walex
15th February 2013, 14:42
I'm contracting abroad in Europe at the moment. I've been told I need to get an A1 form but am having difficulty. There doesn't seem to be a simple way to do this if you are a company director. I am not registered as self employed because I am the company director, but I am also not paid through PAYE, and don't have PAYE set up for my Ltd. Because of this I don't have a PAYE number.

My options seem to be to register as self employed as well as being my Ltd director, or to set up PAYE. Setting up PAYE seems to be a lot of hassle. Can anyone advise me on this?

northernladuk
15th February 2013, 15:13
A directory is an employee so needs PAYE even if it is to do Nil Returns surely?

Walex
15th February 2013, 16:11
Apparently not...

TheFaQQer
15th February 2013, 16:19
A directory is an employee so needs PAYE even if it is to do Nil Returns surely?

Don't know about a directory, but not all directors are employees - you can be a director without being an employee.

If you haven't grasped this, are you sure that you're cut out for contracting? Maybe you should ask your accountant etc. etc. :p

TheFaQQer
15th February 2013, 16:20
Unless you are earning through PAYE elsewhere, then doesn't it make sense to set up PAYE and then pay yourself the tax-free threshold??

Greg@CapitalCity
18th February 2013, 08:20
My options seem to be to register as self employed as well as being my Ltd director, or to set up PAYE. Setting up PAYE seems to be a lot of hassle. Can anyone advise me on this?

Its pretty quick. You can register online at HM Revenue & Customs: Registering by email (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/intro/register-email.htm)

This will obligate you to complete the annual PAYE for 2012/13, and to fulfill your RTI obligations for 2013/14 onwards, but if you want to look after this yourself there are free payroll providers like BrightPay or 12Pay (we don't use either of these BTW and can't vouch for what their software is like).

Sue at IPAYE
18th February 2013, 11:15
Hi there,

An A1 Certificate is granted based on a number of tests, for both the employer and the employee and these can throw up some problems for Ltd Company contractors.

I have been assisting contractors working across EU/EEA for 8 years now and I would be happy to provide some help if you are still having difficulty with this.

If you would like to discuss, maybe you can send me a PM with suitable contact number.

Sue

Ignis Fatuus
19th February 2013, 13:25
I'm contracting abroad in Europe at the moment. I've been told I need to get an A1 form but am having difficulty. There doesn't seem to be a simple way to do this if you are a company director. I am not registered as self employed because I am the company director, but I am also not paid through PAYE, and don't have PAYE set up for my Ltd. Because of this I don't have a PAYE number.

My options seem to be to register as self employed as well as being my Ltd director, or to set up PAYE. Setting up PAYE seems to be a lot of hassle. Can anyone advise me on this?What makes you think that you are entitled to have an A1 form, if you are not an employee being sent to work in another state?

Walex
20th February 2013, 09:26
What makes you think that you are entitled to have an A1 form, if you are not an employee being sent to work in another state?

According the the payroll company I'm using over here its been done quite a bit. You can also get an A1 form as a self employed individual as I mentioned before. The company director approach seems to be a space in between.

Jimmyboyy
30th January 2018, 19:01
Any updates on wheather this worked out? I am also being asked to supply an A1 to work in Germany and am having issues trying to get one.

cojak
30th January 2018, 19:18
Any updates on wheather this worked out? I am also being asked to supply an A1 to work in Germany and am having issues trying to get one.

Nope. I’m afraid that you’re bumping a 5 year old thread and the original poster here hasn’t been seen since.

Sue is still around, she may be able to help.