what I want to know

[EternalOptimist]

is how many Catholic popes, bishops, priests and nuns have to resign before we might start to think there is something to worry about in this organisation.


late night 'can I see your saus' prayer sessions

[norrahe]

is how many Catholic popes, bishops, priests and nuns have to resign before we might start to think there is something to worry about in this organisation.


late night 'can I see your saus' prayer sessions

I give it another 2,000 years

Until they cease to be the richest religion with way too much influence, I don't think it will make a difference.

[IR35FanClub]

is how many Catholic popes, bishops, priests and nuns have to resign before THEY might start to think there is something to worry about in this organisation.

FTFY

WE already think there's something to worry about.

[EternalOptimist]

FTFY

WE already think there's something to worry about.

good point. well made

[d000hg]

Lets ignore the "he's resigned not admitted guilt" angle for now...

EO do you have any stats on how many there have been in the last year/decade/whatever? Is there much evidence that priests are statistically more dodgy than, say, accountants or primary teachers or nurses rather than getting a disproportionate press reaction about it?

After all this is the story of a priest who acted inappropriately to other priests who were adults, even if the media want to try and link it to pedo stories. Isn't that simply sexual harassment in the workplace?

ps: I'm not a Catholic and think the RC church is suspect biblically so this is not to be read as a "defending my own" response.

[EternalOptimist]

Lets ignore the "he's resigned not admitted guilt" angle for now...

EO do you have any stats on how many there have been in the last year/decade/whatever? Is there much evidence that priests are statistically more dodgy than, say, accountants or primary teachers or nurses rather than getting a disproportionate press reaction about it?

After all this is the story of a priest who acted inappropriately to other priests who were adults, even if the media want to try and link it to pedo stories. Isn't that simply sexual harassment in the workplace?

ps: I'm not a Catholic and think the RC church is suspect biblically so this is not to be read as a "defending my own" response.

I have got absolutely zero stats. This is simply a knee-jerk reaction based upon the common misconception that the male priesthood are somehow 'predatory paedos'

sorry if I caused any offence


yours - Jimmy S.

[mudskipper]

From good old wikipedia (for the US) Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The 4,392 priests who were accused amount to approximately 4% of the 109,694 priests in active ministry during that time. Of these 4,392, approximately:

56 percent had one reported allegation against them; 27 percent had two or three allegations against them; nearly 14 percent had four to nine allegations against them; 3 percent (149 priests) had 10 or more allegations against them. These 149 priests were responsible for almost 3,000 victims, or 27 percent of the allegations.[59]

The allegations were substantiated for 1,872 priests and unsubstantiated for 824 priests. They were thought to be credible for 1,671 priests and not credible for 345 priests. 298 priests and deacons who had been completely exonerated are not included in the study.

"

[d000hg]

I have got absolutely zero stats. This is simply a knee-jerk reaction based upon the common misconception that the male priesthood are somehow 'predatory paedos'

So what does a priest being inappropriate to other priests have to do with that? Or are you suggesting those dirty pedos are so sick, they'll even have sex with adults now?

From good old wikipedia (for the US) Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ta d000hg

[sasguru]

I'm not a Catholic and think the RC church is suspect biblically so this is not to be read as a "defending my own" response

Trying to get my head round what "suspect biblically" means and can only conclude that according to you Catholic interpretation of the (Chinese-whispered) words of some blokes 2000 years ago is somehow inferior to your own.

[mudskipper]

I can recommend Andrew O'Hagan's Be Near Me if you fancy a book about priests and child abuse. Very thought provoking and beautifully written.