Stop these racist rants in this forum ..!

**mos** · 2 March 2013, 01:10

I agree that some of these posts are a bit off but I do understand why people are writing this. There is a lot of legitimate frustration out there about the offshoring and people feel the need to vent. Most will express their issues in civil way, but as always, some will write things most would describe as distasteful and grossly unfair. We can just overlook those, but lets not trample free speech, lets keep it real. I believe that admins are doing good job punishing posters who crossed the line.

I personally experienced fair share of subtle and not so subtle racists abuse in the office. Straight to my face or within my earshot. If someone feels the need to behave like jerk, let them do it in the safety of the forum, its mostly harmless that way.

**northernladuk** · 2 March 2013, 01:26

Originally posted by mos View Post

I agree that some of these posts are beyond the pale but I do understand why people are writing this.

That's racist!!!!!

To the OP..... well done for posting your rant in completely the wrong section of the forum. Well executed.....

**RockyBalboa** · 2 March 2013, 02:59

Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post

I know a forum like this might really reflect society, but its shame that such high dose of racism & racist comments are tolerated in Contractor UK forum recently. There might be individuals behaving differently, but why just based on individual’s behaviour people from entire country/race being painted in one way or other..?. Why can’t it be treated as individual behaviour?

I have to share my recent experience. In my last project I had chance to work with an Aussie guy, decent block, experienced guy – but only problem is stinks very bad. If he is anywhere near - your nose will detect him before your eyes. But I never thought all Aussies are like him. Also I was sitting next to a local guy - good friendly guy only problem is he sweats a lot & smells very bad. I never though that’s general UK feature either.

In my current role I work with an experienced older Manager, very friendly guy, but only problem is if he is any where near stinks very badly. Today I had to leave a meeting with him just to get fresh air.! But I do work with couple of other friendly locals as well who do not have these issues. So I will never paint all locals in the same way.

So my advice is Stop this racist rants & treat your experience as behaviour of individuals. I am amazed how badly IT guys from India ("Bobs") are painted here. If they are so bad why they are recruited more & more here. I know many of us contractors lost jobs due to them & anger towards them are reasonable in that way. But the way it’s expressed in this forum recently is really shocking. To be honest you can have technically strong bright Indian IT professionals and not so bright guys from the same IT outsourcer in the same project – Same way you get local IT professionals of varying capability.

For your reference I just copied some recent headers from this forum. It’s a real shame to have these racist rants are allowed in this so called professional forum..!!! Being watching this forum in last 6+ years i can see some general pattern from some individuals in similar language.

Bobs Photochromism ( By SimonMac)
Bobs photocopying ( By SimonMac)
Bobs and flogging them ( By SimonMac)

Bob dress sense (By Ken Dodd)
Bobs photosynthesizing (By Mich the Tester)
Bobs and hocking flem (By BoredBloke)
Bobs and hacking them (by AJ1982)

So please don’t paint people from entire country on basis on your experience in one or two individuals & stop these racist rants in this forum. Thanks.

Some good points and it's funny how the anger never seems to be directed at the often non-foreign Managers who are responsbile for the outsourcing strategy and UK head-count reductions.

Furthermore, the same sort of people that you have mentioned forget to mention the 3 million plus expats living and working abroad.. welcome to globalisation

**cojak** · 2 March 2013, 08:12

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

That's racist!!!!!

To the OP..... well done for posting your rant in completely the wrong section of the forum. Well executed.....

Moved to General.

**doodab** · 2 March 2013, 08:23

Originally posted by Darren_Test View Post

I know a forum like this might really reflect society, but its shame that such high dose of racism & racist comments are tolerated in Contractor UK forum recently. There might be individuals behaving differently, but why just based on individual’s behaviour people from entire country/race being painted in one way or other..?. Why can’t it be treated as individual behaviour?

I have to share my recent experience. In my last project I had chance to work with an Aussie guy, decent block, experienced guy – but only problem is stinks very bad. If he is anywhere near - your nose will detect him before your eyes. But I never thought all Aussies are like him. Also I was sitting next to a local guy - good friendly guy only problem is he sweats a lot & smells very bad. I never though that’s general UK feature either.

In my current role I work with an experienced older Manager, very friendly guy, but only problem is if he is any where near stinks very badly. Today I had to leave a meeting with him just to get fresh air.! But I do work with couple of other friendly locals as well who do not have these issues. So I will never paint all locals in the same way.

So my advice is Stop this racist rants & treat your experience as behaviour of individuals. I am amazed how badly IT guys from India ("Bobs") are painted here. If they are so bad why they are recruited more & more here. I know many of us contractors lost jobs due to them & anger towards them are reasonable in that way. But the way it’s expressed in this forum recently is really shocking. To be honest you can have technically strong bright Indian IT professionals and not so bright guys from the same IT outsourcer in the same project – Same way you get local IT professionals of varying capability.

For your reference I just copied some recent headers from this forum. It’s a real shame to have these racist rants are allowed in this so called professional forum..!!! Being watching this forum in last 6+ years i can see some general pattern from some individuals in similar language.

Bobs Photochromism ( By SimonMac)
Bobs photocopying ( By SimonMac)
Bobs and flogging them ( By SimonMac)

Bob dress sense (By Ken Dodd)
Bobs photosynthesizing (By Mich the Tester)
Bobs and hocking flem (By BoredBloke)
Bobs and hacking them (by AJ1982)

So please don’t paint people from entire country on basis on your experience in one or two individuals & stop these racist rants in this forum. Thanks.

You do realise that more than half of those threads are parodies of the initial "racist" thread don't you?

**cojak** · 2 March 2013, 08:27

Originally posted by doodab View Post

You do realise that more than half of those threads are parodies of the initial "racist" thread don't you?

No he doesn't, despite having read this forum for +6 years.

**MarillionFan** · 2 March 2013, 08:28

Originally posted by doodab View Post

You do realise that more than half of those threads are parodies of the initial "racist" thread don't you?

Shut it honky.

**Paddy** · 2 March 2013, 08:56

I work with and have really good and close Indian friends whom are British citizens. They are just as angry as anyone over Bobs coming here and taking away jobs.

Bobs are cheaper, that’s why they are given visas, they are not better at their jobs in fact they are a lot worse.

Bobs often have bogus qualifications, my Indian friends tell me of their experiences of how certificates are bought in India.

If you want to see racism; go to India where the cast system is rife.

If you want to see poverty next to riches, go to India.

If you want to see people do number twos in the street, go to India.

If you want to see people chuck their rubbish in the street, go to India.

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**OwlHoot** · 2 March 2013, 08:58

Originally posted by cojak View Post

No he doesn't, despite having read this forum for +6 years.

Ah but he did spot certain subtle similarities ...

Being watching this forum in last 6+ years i can see some general pattern from some individuals in similar language

No doubt in another 6 years the penny would have dropped, and he'd have suddenly realised they were parodies

Stop these racist rants in this forum ..!