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    Manufacturing in the UK

    Ok...so it's not exactly a fully-thought out plan, per se, but I wondered if this might work.

    UK manufacturing is, quite frankly, a complete basket case. We simply cannot compete with overseas cheaper labour. That's a given.

    However, with a strong domestic market to drive up sales, I wonder if this would help off-set our uncompetitiveness ? If we can make and shift volume here in the UK, would that underpin the industry domestically ?

    To achieve this, I'm not proposing radical tax cuts, as to be honest, I don't see these as making a major difference to companies anyway. A company with a turnover of, say, 20 million, isn't exactly going to notice an extra 10% tax rebate of 2 million having any major impact on their business, apart from the Directors having an extra 2 million to spunk on fast cars and big houses, which although perhaps nice for them, doesn't help the business as a whole.

    My proposal is that domestic workers are paid considerably less than they are now. Eg, instead of earning £5-6 hour, they earn £2-3 hour.

    Now, before we all fall off our chairs, there is an element of payback to the UK workers of course.

    The Deal is that for UK Nationals, they purchase product from UK manufacturers at a considerable discount. Enough of a discount to balance out the savings in labour cost the company made (and thus putting it ecoonomically back to the same point it was. Nothing lost, nothing gained...yet).

    However, UK Nationals will be able to purchase domestically manufactured products at a discount, and hence increased sales. Eg, A Plasma TV which is sold (and STILL IS SOLD) to the EU for say £1000 (with a manufacture cost of say £200) only costs the UK Worker £300.

    Thus, the domestic market still yields profit, and if balanced correctly, a higher increase in sales and volume. The overseas market yields higher profit, but at a reduced volume.

    So, you are shifting high volume, low profit in the UK, and low volume high profit internationally. You are recreating a manufacturing industry in the UK again, on more labour-competitive costs compared to other countries. Although wages are less, there is a heavily subsidised discount for products manufactured in the UK, so you are encouraging people to buy domestically, which provides a stable and steady stream of turnover locally.

    It's probably flawed and would be impossible to implement (unless you could somehow stop time, make a few tweaks, and then restart the clock on the way society works, which unfortunately there is no way to do these sort of things instantly).

    However, is there any merit in such an idea ? Would it work ? Could it work ?

    Right....off to the Orifice....
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    C.S. Lewis

    #2
    Isn't that called subsidising and doesn't that create a whole new set of problems (Not too mention tax players money)? Not enough of an economist to detail it but I'm sure it's a bad thing ...
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      #3
      Sounds like communism to me.

      Sack everyone. Let the Chinese and Indians work themselves to death whilst we live lives of luxury and leisure funded by the massive rise in house prices.

      HTH

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        #4
        "UK manufacturing is, quite frankly, a complete basket case. We simply cannot compete with overseas cheaper labour. That's a given.
        ",

        BGG, how do you then explain that Germany is the world's largest exporter ?

        Milan.

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          #5
          Originally posted by milanbenes
          "UK manufacturing is, quite frankly, a complete basket case. We simply cannot compete with overseas cheaper labour. That's a given.
          ",

          BGG, how do you then explain that Germany is the world's largest exporter ?

          Milan.
          A high degree of automation

          HTH
          Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

          Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

          That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

          Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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            #6
            granted, and why can this not be achieved in the UK ?

            Milan.

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              #7
              Originally posted by milanbenes
              granted, and why can this not be achieved in the UK ?

              Milan.

              It can and does for certain industries. Manufacturing sites are also best placed either near the source of materials or the customer. Unfortunately logistics costs are at a premium in the UK.

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                #8
                As a matter of fact the UK manufactures more than it did in the 70's, strange and goes against "gut" feelings but true.

                The fact is, it is true that a lot of manufacturing has moved away, steel, ship building etc. but this has been replaced with an enormous expansion of ice-cream and biscuit manufacturing (just look at the kids today and you can see where British products end up) etc. things that you can't easily produce in hot countries, and where we still have a competitive edge.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  #9
                  Germany is a big exporter because the products are percieved as being of quality and having some exclusivity to them. It's a trick but it works well. The BMW 3 series, it sold more in Europe than the Ford Mondeo!

                  British products are on the whole precieved to be inferior to Japanese and German ones. Of course this was once true, probably not now (take for example Dyson, which is selling well in Japan), but it's about perceptions, the new mini, thought up in the UK, orginally would have been built by rover and would have looked the same, driven the same, and been as reliable. Put a German Label on it and kerching $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                  everyone wants one.

                  Making things cheaper isn't the answer, appealing to label conscious morons is.
                  The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                  But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by zeitghost
                    The Dyson vacuum cleaner, in all its incarnations, is apparently the most popular item of cleaning equipment to be found at your friendly local civic recycling facility...
                    Doesn't that just mean most vacum cleaners sold are now Dysons?

                    A bit like if I went to the scrap yard and saw loads more Fords and Vauxhalls than Fiats, does it mean Fiats are more reliable?
                    The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                    But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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