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Which bastard sent Tony B Liar to advise the Dutch government on IR35?

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    Which bastard sent Tony B Liar to advise the Dutch government on IR35?

    Report to me to have your goolies chopped off, you tulip-for-brains.

    Up to now in NL, we had to request a piece of paper from the tax office once a year declaring our status as contractors, to prevent clientco being hit for taxes and social security payments. The 'business friendly' VVD party of prime ministwat Mark Rutte campaigned for years for the bureaucracy placed on small businesses to be reduced, and now they're in power they're going to introduce a new kind of VAR which will have to be requested for every contract, or even every short contract like the one or two day jobs I do when I give training at clients. Each time, the government employees decide in a completely opaque process whether you're a business or not, even thought most government employees wouldn't know what a 'business' actually is, even if it wore a t-shirt saying 'this is a business' and smacked them around the chops with rubber gloves. IF they turn out to have got it wrong, or your estimation of the nature of the project turns out to be wrong, they can then hit clientco and agent with a massive tax bill AFTER the contract.

    We already had tulipe legislation, but this is even worse than the UK and I can't think of any other way in which they could dream this up than that they've had a long coffee session with Tony B Liar, or Accidenture, Crap Gemini and Logicack, or some other insultancy trying to preserve a business model from the 19th century.

    Yes, I'm angry.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    Report to me to have your goolies chopped off, you tulip-for-brains.

    Up to now in NL, we had to request a piece of paper from the tax office once a year declaring our status as contractors, to prevent clientco being hit for taxes and social security payments. The 'business friendly' VVD party of prime ministwat Mark Rutte campaigned for years for the bureaucracy placed on small businesses to be reduced, and now they're in power they're going to introduce a new kind of VAR which will have to be requested for every contract, or even every short contract like the one or two day jobs I do when I give training at clients. Each time, the government employees decide in a completely opaque process whether you're a business or not, even thought most government employees wouldn't know what a 'business' actually is, even if it wore a t-shirt saying 'this is a business' and smacked them around the chops with rubber gloves. IF they turn out to have got it wrong, or your estimation of the nature of the project turns out to be wrong, they can then hit clientco and agent with a massive tax bill AFTER the contract.

    We already had tulipe legislation, but this is even worse than the UK and I can't think of any other way in which they could dream this up than that they've had a long coffee session with Tony B Liar, or Accidenture, Crap Gemini and Logicack, or some other insultancy trying to preserve a business model from the 19th century.

    Yes, I'm angry.
    Moving back soon?

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      #3
      Socialists.

      Enjoy!

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        #4
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        Socialists.

        Enjoy!
        Well, they manage to combine socialist tendencies with nasty nationalist parochialism. Europe has a history of this .
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #5
          Isn't Blair currently advising the Albanian elite on best practice?
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            Report to me to have your goolies chopped off, you tulip-for-brains.

            Up to now in NL, we had to request a piece of paper from the tax office once a year declaring our status as contractors, to prevent clientco being hit for taxes and social security payments. The 'business friendly' VVD party of prime ministwat Mark Rutte campaigned for years for the bureaucracy placed on small businesses to be reduced, and now they're in power they're going to introduce a new kind of VAR which will have to be requested for every contract, or even every short contract like the one or two day jobs I do when I give training at clients. Each time, the government employees decide in a completely opaque process whether you're a business or not, even thought most government employees wouldn't know what a 'business' actually is, even if it wore a t-shirt saying 'this is a business' and smacked them around the chops with rubber gloves. IF they turn out to have got it wrong, or your estimation of the nature of the project turns out to be wrong, they can then hit clientco and agent with a massive tax bill AFTER the contract.

            We already had tulipe legislation, but this is even worse than the UK and I can't think of any other way in which they could dream this up than that they've had a long coffee session with Tony B Liar, or Accidenture, Crap Gemini and Logicack, or some other insultancy trying to preserve a business model from the 19th century.

            Yes, I'm angry.
            Feck, when is this b*ll*cks coming into legislation?

            How the f*** is that going to work?

            The contract market in cloggers is crap enough as it is, this is going to completely kill it!
            "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what's for lunch." - Orson Welles

            Norrahe's blog

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              #7
              No, currently Tony Blair is going around saying "There are problems with Islam" after encouraging in every dodgy fooker from the middle east and Pakistan...

              What a guy!

              Still he spends most of his time lounging on the decks of his billionaire chums super yachts, so it's not really a problem is it?

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                #8
                I'm not sure I understand. What is to differentiate you from a bloke who paints your house? Will he have to submit the same form when he comes to do that single piece of work?

                What about if you have the gas board in to install a new boiler. Form for this?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by norrahe View Post
                  Feck, when is this b*ll*cks coming into legislation?

                  How the f*** is that going to work?

                  The contract market in cloggers is crap enough as it is, this is going to completely kill it!
                  Well, the ' web module' is delayed by a year because the Crap Gemini rejects at the tax office can't program ' Hello World' to save their lives, so it'll be 2014.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
                    I'm not sure I understand. What is to differentiate you from a bloke who paints your house? Will he have to submit the same form when he comes to do that single piece of work?

                    What about if you have the gas board in to install a new boiler. Form for this?
                    Yes, looking at the legislation as it stands, he will. And a whole new department of the tax office wil be filled with inspectors who inspect, check, control, administer and demand more money from a public that can't afford its government as it is now. Clever isn't it? Now you know how previously healthy European economies got themselves into so much debt that we're going to end up like Greece, or bloody Somalia. Except that Somalia's economy is growing.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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