Unseasonally cold and overcast weather - The Mystery Solved?

[OwlHoot]

A coworker has just returned from a two week holiday in China (I know - It isn't somewhere most would choose for their annual vacation, but he's that sort). Anyway, he says it was OK on the whole except that everywhere he went he felt enveloped in a hazy smoggy miasma.

Given that the Chinese have been burning coal like the clappers for several years, and are currently opening a new coal-fired power station each week, and the jet stream howls round the globe every few hours spreading all this shyte everywhere, it isn't a great leap of the imagination to suspect that this may be the cause behind the unseasonably cold weather we and other northern hemisphere countries have had over the last several months, despite the ever increasing CO^2 concentrations and the increasing heat and droughts in southern latitudes.

Any of our learned climate change experts care to comment? blasterbates? DimPrawn? Are the Chinks actually saving the planet from heat death as well as flogging us cheap goods?

[Spacecadet]

lookup global cooling - this is what the climate scammers were pushing before global warming

[EternalOptimist]

A coworker has just returned from a two week holiday in China (I know - It isn't somewhere most would choose for their annual vacation, but he's that sort). Anyway, he says it was OK on the whole except that everywhere he went he felt enveloped in a hazy smoggy miasma.

Given that the Chinese have been burning coal like the clappers for several years, and are currently opening a new coal-fired power station each week, and the jet stream howls round the globe every few hours spreading all this shyte everywhere, it isn't a great leap of the imagination to suspect that this may be the cause behind the unseasonably cold weather we and other northern hemisphere countries have had over the last several months, despite the ever increasing CO^2 concentrations and the increasing heat and droughts in southern latitudes.

Any of our learned climate change experts care to comment? blasterbates? DimPrawn? Are the Chinks actually saving the planet from heat death as well as flogging us cheap goods?

The first thing you get with particulates in the atmoshere is localised smog. This is out and out pollution which nobody likes, but, it is localised (not global).
The second thing that happens is that soot particles are deposited all over the world. On the ice, this reduces the albedo (reflectivity) which creates local warm spots which can cause pools of water. Until recently, this was mistaken for a direct result of agw but it is something entirely different.

Thirdly is the aerosol component. There is a very strong theory, volcanoes providing the markers, that aerosols in the atmoshpere have a massive effect on global climate compared to that of CO2. In fact this is one of the main sceptical arguments. The cooling effect of aerosols and the way they interact with clouds is still a theory though, albeit a stong one.

[suityou01]

The first thing you get with particulates in the atmoshere is localised smog. This is out and out pollution which nobody likes, but, it is localised (not global).
The second thing that happens is that soot particles are deposited all over the world. On the ice, this reduces the albedo (reflectivity) which creates local warm spots which can cause pools of water. Until recently, this was mistaken for a direct result of agw but it is something entirely different.

Thirdly is the aerosol component. There is a very strong theory, volcanoes providing the markers, that aerosols in the atmoshpere have a massive effect on global climate compared to that of CO2. In fact this is one of the main sceptical arguments. The cooling effect of aerosols and the way they interact with clouds is still a theory though, albeit a stong one.

Who's nicked EO's login?

[DimPrawn]

Are we taxing smog?
Is it easy to tax smog?
How do we tax smog?



These are the questions the government and the climate scientists are currently pondering.....

Watch this space.

[OwlHoot]

Are we taxing smog?
Is it easy to tax smog?
How do we tax smog?


These are the questions the government and the climate scientists are currently pondering.....

Watch this space.

Perhaps it should be offset against carbon if it helps cool the planet