Tipping Point

[SimonMac]

BBC News - To tip or not to tip... or should it be banned?

A New York restaurant has banned tipping to spare customers the bother, while some restaurants in other US cities have already replaced the gratuity with a fixed optional service charge. So is the discretionary tip falling out of favour in the land where it's king?

I didn't relalise that in the states for some the minimum wage is less than $3 an hour and the rest is expected to be made up with tips! In the UK I see tipping as a reward for good service, not a prerequisite, and if someone followed me out of the restaurant complaining I'd take it back and tell them to **** off.

But then again, being on the FRS does that mean the extra 5.5% difference in VAT is the tip us contractors get?

[mudskipper]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

[TheFaQQer]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

Let's hope they tip for service rather than quality of food.

[SimonMac]

Child #2 has just got summer job in local harvester. As she's 20, min wage is < £5 an hour, so tips are pretty important for topping it up.

And if she give good service she should be rewarded, but I object to paying her a living wage when her boss won't, either that or just wear a tight top

[mudskipper]

Let's hope they tip for service rather than quality of food.

Yep - that's the problem. Meal comes out late/cold/burnt = no tip.

Agree that they ought to pay more, but they don't. And I guess if tipping was outlawed, they still wouldn't.

[Ketchup]

I always tip well, but the problem i have with it is that it is effectively tax-free income.

[SimonMac]

Yep - that's the problem. Meal comes out late/cold/burnt = no tip.

Agree that they ought to pay more, but they don't. And I guess if tipping was outlawed, they still wouldn't.

Never thought about it like that, they are the public face of the other people she works with, but inversely does she share her tips with those in the kitchen (not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious)

[SimonMac]

I always tip well, but the problem i have with it is that it is effectively tax-free income.

https://www.gov.uk/tips-at-work/tips-and-tax although not sure how honest I would be in declaring if I am on minimum a wage

[doodab]

Never thought about it like that, they are the public face of the other people she works with, but inversely does she share her tips with those in the kitchen (not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious)

Often they go into a pot and are shared out.

[MyUserName]

I normally tip in restaurants. I left a 5p tip once for a waitress who's service had been so bad it eroded even my, almost infinite, patience.

I got told by a friend who used to work as a driver in dominos that they made a note of who was the best tipper and there was always a rush to be the one to deliver to that address, the side effect being you got your pizza more quickly. Hence I tip fast food drivers too.