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19th June 2005, 17:11
New US move to spoil climate accord

Mark Townsend in New York
Sunday June 19, 2005
The Observer

Extraordinary efforts by the White House to scupper Britain's attempts to tackle global warming have been revealed in leaked US government documents obtained by The Observer.

These papers - part of the Bush administration's submission to the G8 action plan for Gleneagles next month - show how the United States, over the past two months, has been secretly undermining Tony Blair's proposals to tackle climate change.

The documents obtained by The Observer represent an attempt by the Bush administration to undermine completely the science of climate change and show that the US position has hardened during the G8 negotiations. They also reveal that the White House has withdrawn from a crucial United Nations commitment to stabilise greenhouse gas emissions.

The documents show that Washington officials:

· Removed all reference to the fact that climate change is a 'serious threat to human health and to ecosystems';

· Deleted any suggestion that global warming has already started;

· Expunged any suggestion that human activity was to blame for climate change.

Among the sentences removed was the following: 'Unless urgent action is taken, there will be a growing risk of adverse effects on economic development, human health and the natural environment, and of irreversible long-term changes to our climate and oceans.'

Another section erased by the White House adds: 'Our world is warming. Climate change is a serious threat that has the potential to affect every part of the globe. And we know that ... mankind's activities are contributing to this warming. This is an issue we must address urgently.' The government's chief scientific adviser, Sir David King, has dismissed the leaking of draft communiques on the grounds that 'there is everything to play for at Gleneagles.' However, there is no doubt that many UK officials have become exasperated by the Bush administration's refusal to accept the basic principle that climate change is happening now and is due to man's activities.

Earlier this month, the senior science academies of the G8 nations, including the US National Academy of Science, issued a statement saying that evidence of climate change was clear enough to compel their leaders to take action. 'There is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring,' they said.

It is now clear that this advice has been completely ignored by Bush and his advisers. 'Every year, it (local air pollution) causes millions of premature deaths, and suffering to millions more through respiratory disease,' reads another statement removed by Washington.

Washington also appears to be unsympathetic towards the plight of Africa, the other priority singled out by Blair for the G8 Summit in Gleneagles.

The documents reveal how the Bush administration has pulled out of financial pledges to fund a network of regional climate centres throughout Africa which were designed to monitor the unfolding impact of global warming.

'Africa, Asia-Pacific and the Arctic are particularly vulnerable to climate variability and are starting to experience the impacts,' reads another excerpt rejected by the US.

Other crucial schemes ditched by the US include the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) set up to help developing states develop economically while controlling greenhouse gas emissions.

According to the documents, the American government has reneged on plans to 'ensure that the CDM executive board is adequately funded by the end of 2005.'


So much for the being an ally grateful for support in Iraq's war!

Not So Wise
19th June 2005, 17:50
Be simple question for Bush, Who is more important, allies who back you in a war or corporations who get you into and keep you in power?

Unless there is a HUGE turn around in general public opinion in the USA, which is unlikely as the corps can control/influence the media well enough to stop that, USA will never be completely on the "green side"

19th June 2005, 19:24
Not So Wise: You are under the impression that the US is a democratic country? Interesting.

19th June 2005, 20:11
Quite right, its not a democracy more of a federal republic controlled by the military industrial complex.

Hmm I suppose it could be called a Corpocracy then, or if you're counting the whole Florida debacle it could be a Rotocracy ?

19th June 2005, 23:32
Has been happening repeatedly throughout geological time. The holocene is in fact remarkably stable in climate terms. Most of the rise in temperature during the last 250 years occured after the end of the little ice age and before industrialisation.

The vast majority of the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is natural, much from volcanic activity and much from the natural release of dissolved gases from the ocean as temperatures rise. OF COURSE there is a correlation between atmospheric CO2 and temperature, between 10 and 20 celsius the solubility of CO2 in water drops by around 20%.

This CRAP is simply a ploy, the political equivalent of "Look, over there!!" or the Magician's shapely assistant. There are other things that we are doing to ourselves and our planet that are actually harmful which are being ignored while energy is wasted on something which will happen WHATEVER humans do.

Not So Wise
20th June 2005, 00:15
Is it a democratic country? Actually yes i believe it is.

Problem is a democracy is controlled by the people or to use a term that the ancient romans used that i always thought more apropriate, controlled by "the mob"

And the greatest problem with democracy and the reason it always has been and always will be a failier is it has never taken into account the following question

"If the people control the democracy, who controls the people?"

And sadly the answer these days (as always has been) is those who control and present the information to the people.

20th June 2005, 00:52
Crap JS. Unfortunately, neither of us will be around long enough for me to say I told you so. Unless my ambition to return as a zombie pans out.