The end of the New Lie?

**Andyw** · 27 July 2006, 14:14

C'mon anyone who can get rid of the Labour rabble !

**Hart-floot** · 27 July 2006, 14:18

Originally posted by DimPrawn

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5220510.stm

Conservative support has reached a 13-year high of 39%, a Guardian/ICM poll suggests.
The party has risen two points in a month with Labour up three to 35%.

The growth in popularity of both parties contrasts with a slump in Liberal Democrat support to 17% - the party's lowest rating since 2002.

More like the end of the Liberal's. What are the chances that Minging "werthers original" Campbell won't be fighting the next election

**xoggoth** · 27 July 2006, 18:43

Prefer Minging to either of the other two. It's age discrimination that's what it is! There should be a national Smelling Of Pee Day to instill proper respect for age.

**NickIT** · 27 July 2006, 18:51

I really fail to see how the Tories would have done things differently had the roles been reversed.

The Rev Smiler and his cronies moved 'Socialist Labour' into Tory country.

Rest assured I have as much respect for all the mainstream political parties as I do for the Lib Dems....none.

The loony fringe parties like the Greens, SWP and the like are even worse.

Do I want to see regime change in the UK? Yes. But there is nothing...nothing at all that is any better.

Don't forget that 'New Labour' is the bastard child of Thatcherism. And that is not a good thing.

**NickIT** · 27 July 2006, 19:47

Originally posted by zeitghost

Bastard child indeed, without the enterprise gene...

Beam me up Scotty, for feck's sake.

Sorry.

I was forgetting myself there for a moment... wrong sort of enterprise...

LOL!!!!

What can I say....you are right....of course both parties 'enterprise initiatives' are/were pork....

**vista** · 27 July 2006, 21:32

Oh heck

This doesn't look good for us chaps.

I would much rather a Government thats run out of ideas, is paralised by internal strife with a weak leader incapable of anything beyond turning up for work than an energised delusioned bunch of feckwitts that have dreamed up new and imaginative ways of fecking us all over.

The only time politicians have any worth is when they figure out that anything they do blows up in their and our faces and the most productive course is to do nothing, its ironic that just when they become bearable they get voted out and a new bunch get to screw it up even further.

**NickIT** · 27 July 2006, 21:51

Originally posted by vista

This doesn't look good for us chaps.

I would much rather a Government thats run out of ideas, is paralised by internal strife with a weak leader incapable of anything beyond turning up for work than an energised delusioned bunch of feckwitts that have dreamed up new and imaginative ways of fecking us all over.

The only time politicians have any worth is when they figure out that anything they do blows up in their and our faces and the most productive course is to do nothing, its ironic that just when they become bearable they get voted out and a new bunch get to screw it up even further.

Its worse than that. Our system is meant to be balanced by the 'Opposition'. Not much of an opposition if they are pretty much the same thing...and weak to boot...

**Denny** · 27 July 2006, 22:49

Originally posted by DimPrawn

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5220510.stm

Conservative support has reached a 13-year high of 39%, a Guardian/ICM poll suggests.
The party has risen two points in a month with Labour up three to 35%.

The growth in popularity of both parties contrasts with a slump in Liberal Democrat support to 17% - the party's lowest rating since 2002.

But Tory leader David Cameron has been criticised by former party chairman Lord Tebbit for "alienating" former Tory voters and its core support.

The Conservatives last scored 39% in a Guardian/ICM survey at the start of 1993, a few months after their most recent general election victory.

ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,001 adults by telephone last weekend.

Come on you Tories!

You think the Tories are any better?

Remember their values?

Family Values; Law and Order; Personal Freedom; Economic prosperity

What we had was:

Alan Clarke - Serial womaniser
Cecil Parkinson - who dumps his pregnant girlfriend and denies all knowledge of his affair or the child's existance.
Jeffrey Archer - Ex criminal and prostitute user
John 'Family Values' Major - Edwina Currie bonker
The Iron Lady's Not for Turning Thatcher (the last time anything had the tag Iron was the Iron Fist of communism). The lady who spouted the virtues of freedom - freedom to be individualistic and greedy, freedom to not give a damn about those less fortunate; or the freedom to be unemployed, to starve, to be homeless (yeah right!) Oh, and don't forget the Belgrano affair during The Falklands War; mass unemployment in the North; the 'moaning minnie miners' -wiping the miners off the map and getting the police to cosh them senseless because they had the 'audacity' to go on strike because they couldn't find work anywhere else. Not to mention that she bore a ***** of a son who gets lost in the desert and fiddles his taxes at every opportunity and then buggers off to South Africa to escape the consequences. At least Dennis and Cawol had a clean slate.

Lovely and full of honesty and integrity aren't they

**wonderwaif** · 28 July 2006, 07:36

I don't really give a **** if someone is having an extra-marital affair or fiddling his expenses and the Tories as you say were no better than Labour in that respect. They did however differ in many different ways:
i. When caught they resigned and stayed resigned. They didn't brazen it out for a while, disappear for a couple of weeks, and then come back in another job.
ii. I didn't get the feeling they were desperate to sign over the UK to Brussels.
iii. They didn't try to turn us into a police state
iv. We didn't have state-sponsered executions, (David Kelly allegedly).
I could go on and on about what a complete shower of tulipe Liebour are, but anybody who still thinks the Tories were no better after all this time couldn't be old enough to remember life in a free country.

The end of the New Lie?