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    Thank you Boris

    In the telegraph today Boris Johnson argues eloquently about the moralities of killing children/civilians in war. Forget the stuff about Mel Gibson (the famous presenter of that well known documentary "Braveheart" and his struggle to come to terms with his support for the Iraq war, here are the good bits:

    Of course anti-Americanism wins votes, especially if, like Jack Straw, you have a seat with a lot of Muslims. But show me how it works, this proposed spanking new "independent" British policy on Israel? Presumably we join France and Germany in their vapourings. Presumably we join the European Commission in encouraging the pouring of further squillions down the gullets of the brutal and corrupt Palestinian government.

    Then what? Then nothing. The real problem in the region is not Israel, but what it represents to the Islamicists who surround it. The difference between Israel and her neighbours is that Israel is a capitalist democracy, with all the freedom and tawdriness that entails. They don't give a monkey's in Teheran about the fate of the poor Palestinians. Israel incarnates everything the mullahs hate, not least the spectacle of liberated womanhood that they find so appalling and so shamingly tempting.

    Israel provides a focus for the resentment of a Muslim civilisation that finds itself materially and intellectually humiliated by the achievements of America and the West. Indeed, Israel provides a convenient proxy target for people in this country who loathe the Yo-Blair way America bosses us around, and who resent our enclitic status: not so much the parrot on America's shoulder as the monkey in the pocket of an organ-grinder who is himself controlled by a vast Zionist conspiracy.

    Well, let me remind Mel and all his secret British sympathisers of two last differences between Israel and the Islamicists. Whatever the hideous shambles of the past few days, it is still true, in principle, that when Israeli rockets kill civilians, they have missed their targets, and that when Hizbollah rockets kill civilians, they have scored a deliberate hit.

    That is a moral difference that needs to be dinned into the skull of every saloon-bar strategist currently denouncing Israel. Finally, Mel, if you want to get wasted on tequilas and sheilas, you're much better off in Tel Aviv than Teheran.

    Boris Johnson is MP for Henley


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...ixopinion.html


    DA in "Going for 100 postings thread" mode
    Last edited by DodgyAgent; 3 August 2006, 08:50.
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

    #2
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent
    DA in "Going for 100 postings thread" mode
    "Test please delete" has now triggered post inflation and even infamous "Columbian Hostages" thread now appears as puny as achievements of that football club that shaun-bhoy supports.

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      #3
      Originally posted by zeitghost
      Wonderful.

      I now have a new word: "enclitic".

      I shall endeavour to use it incorrectly wherever possible.
      Do you think it is derived from clitoris?
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #4
        Sadly not.

        Late Latin encliticus, from Greek enklitikos, from enklnein, to lean on : en-, on, in; see en-2 + klnein, to lean; see klei- in Indo-European Roots.]
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #5
          Originally posted by sasguru
          Sadly not.

          Late Latin encliticus, from Greek enklitikos, from enklnein, to lean on : en-, on, in; see en-2 + klnein, to lean; see klei- in Indo-European Roots.]
          Have you been reading "Clits for Dummies" SAS?
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #6
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent
            Have you been reading "Clits for Dummies" SAS?
            No, "Advanced Clitoral Manipulation using Arrays"
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #7
              Despite appearances, very sensible chap Boris. Should have been Tory leader instead of the blithering Cameron.

              Indeed, as I said a couple of days back, it is perfectly clear from the scale of the casualties that there is no deliberate targetting of civilians by Israel, as they could easily have killed tens of thousands by now.

              No military expert but I would have thought that dropping a single bomb in a major commercial area or densely populated urban area of Beirut or other major town or city would kill a hundred or more almost every time. He is also quite right to say that when Islamic groups strike anywhere in the world they do not give a damn about hitting civilians.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #8
                He's my MP - I think he's great...

                Older and ...well, just older!!

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                  #9
                  Wrong Xog, badly wrong

                  He is also quite right to say that when Islamic groups strike anywhere in the world they do not give a damn about hitting civilians.

                  When Islamic groups strike anywhere in the world they intend to hit civilians, it's not accidental or collateral (that covers a multitude of sins, that collateral damage).
                  Why not?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dundeegeorge
                    He is also quite right to say that when Islamic groups strike anywhere in the world they do not give a damn about hitting civilians.

                    When Islamic groups strike anywhere in the world they intend to hit civilians, it's not accidental or collateral (that covers a multitude of sins, that collateral damage).
                    Did the US give a damn about those thousands of Iraqi civillians, inlcuding Christians, they killed during their savage bombing, Shock and Awe they called it ?

                    And what exactly has this destruction of Iraq achvieved, a destruction which was ordained by GW Bush because God had told him to do it?

                    As far as I can see US religous political fanatacism and Islamic fanatacism are two sides of the same coin, both are equally repugnant and cancerous.
                    Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 3 August 2006, 12:01.

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