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    Delusional

    I can't help wondering what defense this two can possibly run - would the panel care to speculate?

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    they will get almost no reduction for pleading guilty, they are looking at natural life term. So they may as well mess about ,waste as much money(they will be on legal aid) get as much publicity as possible before changing their plea at the last minute. A bit like deporting a Mad Mullah.
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      #3
      Personal opinion, they do not think they are guilty of murder as they were carrying out, in their minds, a justifiable action. They don't recognise the law or the charge so they will believe they are not guilty.

      Also allows them however many weeks of being in the spotlight while it is argued unfortunately as well.
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        #4
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Personal opinion, they do not think they are guilty of murder as they were carrying out, in their minds, a justifiable action.
        They are clearly mentally ill and suffering from psychosis so section them to be detained indefinitely which will save a lot of time, money and grief....
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          #5
          Does killing an enemy soldier in war count as murder?

          I'm guessing they'll try to argue something along those lines.
          Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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            #6
            Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
            Does killing an enemy soldier in war count as murder?
            If that's their argument then they should be taken out and shot, it's ze war innit?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
              section them to be detained indefinitely which will save a lot of time, money and grief....
              Originally posted by zeitghost
              So the doctors can declare them sane in a couple of years & let the bastards out again?
              No, I said "indefinitely" as in the adverb meaning "without any limit of time or number"

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                Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
                No, I said "indefinitely" as in the adverb meaning "without any limit of time or number"

                Unfortunately it's indefinitely so long as they're still considered insane. As soon as they manage to convince the authorities that they can safely use a spoon again, they'll be out.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by alluvial View Post
                  Unfortunately it's indefinitely so long as they're still considered insane. As soon as they manage to convince the authorities that they can safely use a spoon again, they'll be out.
                  It worked so well for Ian Brady .....
                  Very unlikely they will be found insane, very unlikely they are actually psychotic. Just because their behaviour is way outside the accepted norm, doesnt mean they are suffering from an actual mental illness at all. They might as well plead not guilty from their point of view. Theres a slim to vanishing chance that a jury can be convinced they did not intend to kill. There isnt exactly going to be any plea bargaining available. For most cases, being found not guilty but insane gets you far longer in prison/Broadmoor.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    Personal opinion, they do not think they are guilty of murder as they were carrying out, in their minds, a justifiable action. They don't recognise the law or the charge so they will believe they are not guilty.

                    Also allows them however many weeks of being in the spotlight while it is argued unfortunately as well.
                    Ah yes, the 'Gerald Ronson' (allegedly) defence. Assuming its not a case of mistaken identity, they just want a few weeks of being able to make statements in court/to the media. The Daily Wail will oblige, I'm sure.
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