Team Building

[kingcook]

1st week in my new contract, yippee!!

There's been a few "starters" very recently, perm and contractors. Client thinks it would be a good idea if we all went through some team building bollocks. Like painting some rooms and clearing the tulip out of some gardens... including contractors

Don't worry though, we get paid for it

There's a handful of contractors onsite, and they all seem to be blissfully unaware of the IR35 implications. Some of them said it's a good idea! 1 says not to worry, we won't get caught [by HMRC]!. Kingcook said he'd rather just just get on with the work he's contracted to do.

I get the feeling I haven't heard the last of this

How many dumb contractors are out there? FFS! I was expecting the contractors to be sticking together. I suppose there is always the chance that some/all of them may be working through an umbrella.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Getting paid to integrate in the workplace and bond with the permies - not great from an IR35 perspective is it

[The Spartan]

How many dumb contractors are out there? FFS! I was expecting the contractors to be sticking together. I suppose there is always the chance that some/all of them may be working through an umbrella.

Too many I reckon, after seeing it first hand I'm often shocked by just how unaware some of them actually are.
For instance for my last two gigs including this one I have managed to successfully get my contract changed prior to starting but the majority of other contractors I've spoken to just tend to sign them and have never heard of getting them reviewed

[curtis]

God do you work where I do! there seems to be some team building thing going on almost every other week where I am. There has been an away day and all contractors have to take part in it all. The IR35 issue has been raised but most do it which then leaves the odd few that don't want to looking like miserable gits.

I hate all this team building rubbish I just want to come in do my job and go one of the big pluses about working this way was that as a contractor I normally get left out of this tulip but this one had other ideas!!

[northernladuk]

Too many I reckon, after seeing it first hand I'm often shocked by just how unaware some of them actually are.
For instance for my last two gigs including this one I have managed to successfully get my contract changed prior to starting but the majority of other contractors I've spoken to just tend to sign them and have never heard of getting them reviewed

Just take the name of their companies and contact details. If HMRC ever come knocking advise them you they are in for a long fight and likely to lose, however, they might want to have a look at this list of companies that don't know about IR35 and will be nice easy wins to line the coffers with.

[quackhandle]

Just take the name of their companies and contact details. If HMRC ever come knocking advise them you they are in for a long fight and likely to lose, however, they might want to have a look at this list of companies that don't know about IR35 and will be nice easy wins to line the coffers with.

Whistle blower!

qh

[The Spartan]

Just take the name of their companies and contact details. If HMRC ever come knocking advise them you they are in for a long fight and likely to lose, however, they might want to have a look at this list of companies that don't know about IR35 and will be nice easy wins to line the coffers with.

Get this as well, I just heard one contractor tell another to make their mother a shareholder in the company to draw more out

[Clare@InTouch]

Get this as well, I just heard one contractor tell another to make their mother a shareholder in the company to draw more out

We get a surprising number of those, along with kids/dads/grandparents etc. Along with the "my mate in the pub told me....." who people often believe more than they believe us

[wurzel]

1st week in my new contract, yippee!!

There's been a few "starters" very recently, perm and contractors. Client thinks it would be a good idea if we all went through some team building bollocks. Like painting some rooms and clearing the tulip out of some gardens... including contractors

Don't worry though, we get paid for it

There's a handful of contractors onsite, and they all seem to be blissfully unaware of the IR35 implications. Some of them said it's a good idea! 1 says not to worry, we won't get caught [by HMRC]!. Kingcook said he'd rather just just get on with the work he's contracted to do.

I get the feeling I haven't heard the last of this

How many dumb contractors are out there? FFS! I was expecting the contractors to be sticking together. I suppose there is always the chance that some/all of them may be working through an umbrella.

Not a certain building society in Swindon by any chance?

[DirtyDog]

Too many I reckon, after seeing it first hand I'm often shocked by just how unaware some of them actually are.
For instance for my last two gigs including this one I have managed to successfully get my contract changed prior to starting but the majority of other contractors I've spoken to just tend to sign them and have never heard of getting them reviewed

I have the same here. We were discussing recently about the penalties involved if you lost. I said "if you've done some diligence, like having your contract checked, then you've got an argument that you weren't deliberately declaring yourself outside when you are in". Two blank looks - "I showed my wife the contract before I signed it...". His wife is a baker.

Last one was discussing how it's easier to pay 4% on a director's loan (which currently stands at about £30000) and then repay it with a dividend at the start of the tax year, and then take out another directors loan...