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Conservative MP wants even more Bobs to be let in

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    Conservative MP wants even more Bobs to be let in

    Nirj Deva MEP: China and India are the future – let’s not close our doors to them | Conservative Home

    #2
    Like it or not, he's right; China and India will play a bigger and bigger part in the world's economy. He's not calling for unlimited access for them but calling for a sense of reality. Europe and the US are probably no longer going to be the dominant forces in the world's economy and we have to adapt to that. Or give up and end up poor.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #3
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      Like it or not, he's right; China and India will play a bigger and bigger part in the world's economy. He's not calling for unlimited access for them but calling for a sense of reality. Europe and the US are probably no longer going to be the dominant forces in the world's economy and we have to adapt to that. Or give up and end up poor.
      Naive in the extreme is how we act at the moment.

      Its far too hard for a Brit to get a work visa to India, and far too easy for them to come here.

      We are a small country, and cannot allow ever larger numbers in.

      And the perks they get while here such as tax dispensations, free healthcare and schooling for their families etc compare rather badly with the way Brits get treated in India.

      I am all for friendship, but at the moment its all rather one way abuse of the UK.

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        #4
        Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
        Naive in the extreme is how we act at the moment.

        Its far too hard for a Brit to get a work visa to India, and far too easy for them to come here.

        We are a small country, and cannot allow ever larger numbers in.

        And the perks they get while here such as tax dispensations, free healthcare and schooling for their families etc compare rather badly with the way Brits get treated in India.

        I am all for friendship, but at the moment its all rather one way abuse of the UK.
        Then it's time for HM Government to discuss with the Indian government to improve those terms, not time for them to close the borders to Indian and Chinese businesspeople or skilled immigrants and students.

        This isn't about fairness; it's about how the UK is going earn a living in a world with very different economic superpowers to the last 100 years.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #5
          Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
          Naive in the extreme is how we act at the moment.

          Its far too hard for a Brit to get a work visa to India, and far too easy for them to come here.

          We are a small country, and cannot allow ever larger numbers in.

          And the perks they get while here such as tax dispensations, free healthcare and schooling for their families etc compare rather badly with the way Brits get treated in India.

          I am all for friendship, but at the moment its all rather one way abuse of the UK.
          We should first of all stop wasting all the talent that is destroyed by our dreadful education system.
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #6
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            We should first of all stop wasting all the talent that is destroyed by our dreadful education system.
            THIS is a very valid point.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              Then it's time for HM Government to discuss with the Indian government to improve those terms, not time for them to close the borders to Indian and Chinese businesspeople or skilled immigrants and students.

              This isn't about fairness; it's about how the UK is going earn a living in a world with very different economic superpowers to the last 100 years.
              To a certain extent there is an argument for immigration to make up for a shortful in some areas but in the main we welcome them with open arms because they are cheap. And this is very much to the detriment of home grown talent.

              I get the impression that the only people who stand to benefit from this new economic order are the bosses of big business and their associated lackeys.

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                #8
                Originally posted by zoco View Post
                I get the impression that the only people who stand to benefit from this new economic order are the bosses of big business and their associated lackeys.
                But Mps facilitating this to feather their own nests, is something we can stop. It seems to be something endemic to all the parties

                Perhaps we need a friends of the UK group in parliament for them to get the hint ?
                Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                  We should first of all stop wasting all the talent that is destroyed by our dreadful education system.
                  Do you ever wonder whether the undeniable decline in our educational standards isn't entirely accidental and rather than it being through incompetence there is some intent there.

                  A number of regimes past and present have employed this. One I can think of is Turkmenistan where Burdimuhamedow openly admits following this policy as an uneducated population is easier to keep in check.

                  Oddly enough, this is one of those quaint regimes from whom Tony Blair has been trousering heaps of cash to advise on good governance. I wonder if they immersed dissidents in vats of boiling oil before Tone got on the scene?

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                    #10
                    I am still trying to understand what it is we are not selling to India that we will sell if we let more of them in?
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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