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Operating Enduring Freedom - Part 3

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    Operating Enduring Freedom - Part 3

    It seems to me, that the recent August 22nd response date from Iran regarding their nuclear processing capability may have rattled a few cages in the intelligence community.

    Would anyone be suprised if, startling new evidence was found within the next 7 days, that points a finger at Iran and accuses them of being an imminent threat ?

    And after the slanging match on the world stage, with various "experts" being wheeled out to confirm how dangerous the situation is, there follows within the next few days, military action against key targets in Iran. These strikes will be small and limited, and some confusion will exist as to who performed them.

    The usual suspects will be named, in the following order, Israel, USA, UK. All 3 nations will deny everything, in spite of the recent announcements by them days before, and then we will be told that counter-insurgents within Iran launched these attacks. We will not be told who the counter-insurgents are. We can only guess from a short list of

    1) CIA
    2) MI ?
    3) Mossad
    4) Santa Claus

    The day after, some famour star from Eastenders will peg it, and the news will return to more domestic affairs and items of national interest.

    Watch this space....
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

    C.S. Lewis

    #2
    The situation is not that simple - look at Israel that supposedly had best army in the region, yet they could not beat up Hezbollah who now appear to be armed with much more up to date weapons (courtesy of Russia whose president Putin received warm support in the West), in Iraq most of US forces are tied up in endless fighting - how can you even hope beat up Iran that has got much more complicated terrain and has got much more modern weapons?

    Obviously Iran wants nuke - anyone in its place would want to, they are certainly playing for time - but they seem to need more time: 2-3 years, even though I suspect they paid good money for a couple of nukes from North Korea, so stay tuned for possible nuclear test. Might as well get huge morgage as debt would soon be wiped out...

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      #3
      Israel are damned if they do .. damned if they don't. They could have easily flattened the whole of Lebanon south of the Litani river and they chose not to - why? Because the cowards that are hezbollah are hiding their rocket launches in the midst of built up civilians areas and you call that a defeat for the Israelis no it is restraint.
      Sola gratia

      Sola fide

      Soli Deo gloria

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        #4
        Originally posted by Chico
        Because the cowards that are hezbollah
        So far the score is this: Israel killed a lot more civilians in Lebanon, and in this conflict official counts suggest that Hezbollah killed more Israeli soldiers than civilians - their rockets are just too primitive to hit targets accurately.

        Hezbollah did not run away from tanks - they actually hit and blown up a lot of them, so much that from military point of view Israel failed miserably: this will lead to long term negative consequences in the region.

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          #5
          It's very difficult to deal with people that have no fear of dying and actually want to die in battle ans martyrs. They don't tend to run away when faced with a greater force, they relish the battle and take unexpected risks and fight in an unpredictable manner. Has Israel have found to their cost.

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            #6
            It is interesting that you bought the media lie that the majority of Lebanese dead are civilians. How many woman and children have been killed on the Lebanese side? How comes the media keep intimating that very few of the Hezbollah terrorists have been killed. Its not like they are running around in baseball caps that say HTF (hezbollah terrorist fighters).
            Sola gratia

            Sola fide

            Soli Deo gloria

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              #7
              Hezbollah are a bunch of cowards that hide in amongst the skirts of the civilian population. They are every bit as culpable for the high number of civilian deaths as the !sraelis might be.
              “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                #8
                Aye-ran

                Not wishing to be drawn into the usual Israel vs Arabs slanging match that seems to go on forever in this forum, Iran is certainly not stupid. By instigating attacks on Israel :
                1. They know what the response will be, ie Israel's retaliation and can now play to the gallery, by promising thay will rebuilt foc all the buildings that were destroyed (as a result of whose actions ?)
                2. The price of oil goes up and they are better off.
                I tend to think that Iran has won this time round.
                Keep pushing your luck guys!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by shaunbhoy
                  Hezbollah are a bunch of cowards that hide in amongst the skirts of the civilian population.
                  What about people of Stalingrad - were they also cowards by hiding in the city? You have strange idea of bravery Chico - lining up to be shot from long distance is not bravery, if anything its cowardice, in fact its their population.

                  IMO Hezbollah shown great restraints in avoiding what Palestians do on regular basis - blowing themselves up in a crown of civilians. Sure Hezbollah used rocket attacks, but Israel did the same and killed far more civilians, at least Hezbollah had balls to fight with regular army - and Israel's army is not a bad army, it requires bravery to fight with them and if anything Hezbollah should be encouraged to (if they want conflict) fight with the regular army, not shooting civilians.

                  While on the subject - a while ago I said that if Palestinians had modern anti-tank equipment (those RPG-7 don't work well against modern tanks), then Israel's position would be much worse - this is exactly what happened in Lebanon - RPG-29 and some other anti-tank measures effectively stalled Israeli's progress.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Board Game Geek
                    It seems to me, that the recent August 22nd response date from Iran regarding their nuclear processing capability may have rattled a few cages in the intelligence community.

                    Would anyone be suprised if, startling new evidence was found within the next 7 days, that points a finger at Iran and accuses them of being an imminent threat ?

                    And after the slanging match on the world stage, with various "experts" being wheeled out to confirm how dangerous the situation is, there follows within the next few days, military action against key targets in Iran. These strikes will be small and limited, and some confusion will exist as to who performed them.
                    It's going to happen at some stage - so why not now. As long as Iran wants to wipe Isreal of the map then the Isreali's will have nothing to loose.

                    If Iran ever get nuclear weapons then a nuclear exchange would be inevitable in the Middle East. The old cold war stand off of mutually assured destruction between the USA & the USSR won't work with the Islamofacists.

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