Quite interesting, and will be keeping an eye out for the outcome: 13 reasons why I am taking the Daily Mail to the Press Complaints Commission | British InfluenceBritish Influence
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Liars, and the lying liars who lie (yep, the Mail again!)
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Liars, and the lying liars who lie (yep, the Mail again!)
“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.” -
Originally posted by darmstadt View PostQuite interesting, and will be keeping an eye out for the outcome: 13 reasons why I am taking the Daily Mail to the Press Complaints Commission | British InfluenceBritish Influence
You don't really think objective, observable facts are important do you?And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014 -
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostIt'd be funny if so many didn't buy into it.
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It would be nice if someone could make a case out of this for the relevant people to be charged with incitement towards racial hatred...“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostYes. And I wish they didn't It makes me rather sad. But then again you have to remember that (so I am told) people buy the newspaper that accords with their views. So perhaps you can't really blame the DM? Although there must be positive reinforcement when a DM reader reads what they suspected all along is happening but worse, which makes them angrier, which makes them believe the DM all the more.
Last edited by Mich the Tester; 24 January 2014, 10:27.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostIt would be nice if someone could make a case out of this for the relevant people to be charged with incitement towards racial hatred...Comment
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Nothing excuses a paper falsifying facts but then, given what happened on Polish immigration, it is understandable that people feared the worst.
Some love to such blame such fears on anti-immigrant speeches but they are not the original causes. It was the last government's failure to apply interim controls that created this concern. If they had, relatively few Eastern Europeans would have come to the UK, they would have had a wider choice and most would have preferred Germany. UK public opinion would have been far more in favour of the EU than it now is.
The desirable aim of a united Europe is being put at risk by the idealists who are determined to rush it through and ignore the practical consequences for ordinary people.bloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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Originally posted by xoggoth View Post...the last government's failure to apply interim controls that created this concern. If they had, relatively few Eastern Europeans would have come to the UK, they would have had a wider choice and most would have preferred Germany. Public opinion would have been far more in favour of the EU than it now is.
The desirable aim of a united Europe is being put at risk by the idealists who are determined to rush it through and ignore the practical consequences for ordinary people.
I'm in favour of much more migration freedom, but that doesn't mean I want it to happen right now, with no gradual movement towards more freedom and no sensitivity toward local needs.
That's what annoys me sometimes with demonstrators using the 'what do we want- something or other, when do we want it - now' cliché; they show no understanding of the impact that some change has on other people and no desire to compromise.Last edited by Mich the Tester; 24 January 2014, 10:50.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Don't you just love the Mail:
Anti-EU editor pockets European subsidies |
Langwell Estate | United Kingdom | FarmSubsidy.org“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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