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norrahe
13th February 2014, 08:19
Any suggestions for a decent coffee grinder.

I currently have a manual ceramic and while that's ok for making coffee for one, I'm not up for milling coffee for hours when I have people around.

Pondlife
13th February 2014, 08:29
I just use one of these and a std filter machine.

http://www.marksandspencer.com/Marks-and-Spencer-Taranto-Grinder/dp/B002DT31DO

IIRC it was about £15, does what it's supposed to do and is pretty easy to keep clean.

d000hg
13th February 2014, 08:36
Do you notice a real difference between buying ready-ground, or is the difference you can pay less to get the same quality, or it lasts longer at top quality, or what? Since even snobby coffee sellers online will sell it ground, what is the benefit other than getting to play with the beans? :)

norrahe
13th February 2014, 08:39
Do you notice a real difference between buying ready-ground, or is the difference you can pay less to get the same quality, or it lasts longer at top quality, or what? Since even snobby coffee sellers online will sell it ground, what is the benefit other than getting to play with the beans? :)

I've found that the coffee tastes better when grinding it fresh. I used to get it ground at the shop, but found the flavour degraded quicker.

Scruff
13th February 2014, 08:49
I have a manual ceramic burr grinder like this

Ceramic Slim Hand Grinder | Square Mile Coffee Roasters (http://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/ceramic-slim-hand-grinder)

It is brilliant, but takes me 5-10 minutes to produce the morning 2 x double espresso shots. Too long.

I have lingered over automatic, ceramic burr grinders, purely because of the price, since whilst the manual one can produce the finest espresso grinds, the cheaper motorised burr grinders don't last if you have them on the finest grind required...

I would go for the Dualit at the price

Home Coffee Grinders - The scoop on the best coffee grinders | York Coffee Emporium Blog (http://yorkcoffeeemporium.co.uk/blog/grinders/)

Catch 22 - I have a similar dilemma (presently using Lavazza D'Oro - 2 packs a week though, or the Square Mile Red Brick Red Brick | Square Mile Coffee Roasters (http://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/red-brick) when I can be bothered...it is sensational though!).

petergriffin
13th February 2014, 09:05
Does it have to be manual? There's one at Blokker for €12.99 (are you still in cloggers?).

doodab
13th February 2014, 09:11
Do you notice a real difference between buying ready-ground, or is the difference you can pay less to get the same quality, or it lasts longer at top quality, or what? Since even snobby coffee sellers online will sell it ground, what is the benefit other than getting to play with the beans? :)

If you're using an espresso machine it lets you tailor the grind so it comes out just right.

I have an old dualit. Does the job. The Rancilio Rocky is supposed to be good but ain't cheap.

Bellona
13th February 2014, 09:14
I got one of these. I don't have ground coffee a lot, but it does the trick - does spices for curry etc and mustard seeds a treat.
For the price it covered a few things for me

http://amazon.co.uk/dp/B005FFT9B6

alreadypacked
13th February 2014, 09:14
I've found that the coffee tastes better when grinding it fresh. I used to get it ground at the shop, but found the flavour degraded quicker.

Did you keep it in rubber sealed container in fridge?

Halo Jones
13th February 2014, 09:32
BGG & I probably drink too much coffee, but due to consumption levels we justified on of these <linky> (http://www.johnlewis.com/de'longhi-ecam26455-primadonna-s-de-luxe-automatic-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine/p439115?colour=Pepper Grey)

So much easier, grinds the quantity needed at the touch of a button & makes the coffee, it has a lot of user viable setting so you can get the taste you like

norrahe
13th February 2014, 09:40
Did you keep it in rubber sealed container in fridge?


Nope I have a vacuum packer and reseal it.


BGG & I probably drink too much coffee, but due to consumption levels we justified on of these <linky> (http://www.johnlewis.com/de'longhi-ecam26455-primadonna-s-de-luxe-automatic-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine/p439115?colour=Pepper Grey)

So much easier, grinds the quantity needed at the touch of a button & makes the coffee, it has a lot of user viable setting so you can get the taste you like

I toyed with the idea of getting one of the deLonghi machines, but considering I'm the only one who drinks coffee in the house and when at work it's only once or twice a week, it seemed a ridiculous expense for myself. Not to mention the amount of space it will take up.

I only use a cafetiere, so no need for complicated grinding settings.

doodab
13th February 2014, 09:43
I toyed with the idea of getting one of the deLonghi machines, but considering I'm the only one who drinks coffee in the house and when at work it's only once or twice a week, it seemed a ridiculous expense for myself. Not to mention the amount of space it will take up.

I only use a cafetiere, so no need for complicated grinding settings.

I found when I had a machine I drank a *lot* more coffee, probably more than was healthy. The ritual of making it is addictive.

DirtyDog
13th February 2014, 09:49
JTC Omniblend

moggy
13th February 2014, 10:01
We have a delongi bean to cup - was always a tea drinker, but the wife insisted.. I am now a convert. But agreed, I definitely tend to drink lots more coffee now.

The cost (very pricey I thought) was offset by the low cost of the beans for us, instead for getting a capsule machine, but as you are already using beans guess that wouldn't be the same for you of course.

Gittins Gal
13th February 2014, 10:15
Have always ground my own beans.

My mother had a set of coffee making apparatus that looked like something off the set of Breaking Bad. There were a number of funnels and flasks that the black stuff would run through on it's journey to the cup.

Believe it was made by Cona. Don't know if They're still around.

Ive still got the original MK grinder dating from c.1970 and it still works!

Would be innerested to know if you can get grinders that grade the grind according to what method one is going to use to make the coffee be it stove pot, percolator or whatever.

For the record, I always buy beans and my bean of choice is Santos and Java from Whittards. I always get a kilo for £25 or so but, because I'm buying so much, I normally get a discount or some kind of freebie thrown in.

Once the pack is open, I stick enough for a couple of days in an airtight container and the rest goes in the freezer.

NickFitz
13th February 2014, 10:20
Marco Arment, co-founder of Tumblr and founder of Instapaper (among other endeavours), is renowned for his obsession with perfect coffee, even going so far as to roast beans at home. He recommended a couple of grinders, along with other coffee-related stuff, in his blog post about Christmas gifts: Gift/Product Recommendations That I've Actually Used For At Least A Year – Marco.org (http://www.marco.org/2013/12/12/gift-guide-actually-used-for-a-year)

norrahe
13th February 2014, 10:42
I found when I had a machine I drank a *lot* more coffee, probably more than was healthy. The ritual of making it is addictive.

I only ever drink one cup a day.

Cup of tea first thing and then normally a cup of coffee when I get into work or late morning if at home.

So a pack of 250g beans will last me 2-3 weeks.

Scruff
13th February 2014, 10:55
Would be innerested to know if you can get grinders that grade the grind according to what method one is going to use to make the coffee be it stove pot, percolator or whatever.

@GG - Burr Grinders are what you should use for coffee, as opposed to blade grinders. The reasoning is that the blade grinder rotate at such a high speed, that they generate a lot of heat, which causes the volatiles in the coffee oil to be released and evaporate, and can give the coffee a burned taste. Ceramic Burrs work on the principle of low rotational speed and high pressure, which doesn't generate sufficient heat for the volatiles to waste off.

Ceramic burrs also allow the grind to be fine enough to use in Espresso machines and are adjustable for the grind, depending on your requirements - ie French Press grind is pretty coarse, whilst Espresso is (can be) more powder-like.

Pondlife
13th February 2014, 11:06
How do you like your coffee? (http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aYbMbXq_460s.jpg)


The internet is getting too weird for me. :freaky:

Gittins Gal
13th February 2014, 11:14
@GG - Burr Grinders are what you should use for coffee, as opposed to blade grinders. The reasoning is that the blade grinder rotate at such a high speed, that they generate a lot of heat, which causes the volatiles in the coffee oil to be released and evaporate, and can give the coffee a burned taste. Ceramic Burrs work on the principle of low rotational speed and high pressure, which doesn't generate sufficient heat for the volatiles to waste off.

Ceramic burrs also allow the grind to be fine enough to use in Espresso machines and are adjustable for the grind, depending on your requirements - ie French Press grind is pretty coarse, whilst Espresso is (can be) more powder-like.

Thanyou. Very informative post.

oscarose
13th February 2014, 11:22
NESCAFÉ® Dolce Gusto®

For a rapid coffee first thing

:o

d000hg
13th February 2014, 11:35
I only ever drink one cup a day.

Cup of tea first thing and then normally a cup of coffee when I get into work or late morning if at home.

So a pack of 250g beans will last me 2-3 weeks.You didn't say you wanted to take your grinder into work :)

petergriffin
14th February 2014, 08:59
Why does everybody insist on spending useless money on Nespresso and similar cr@p when all they have to do is to invest in a good moka pot:
Moka pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot)

It must be a Bialetti:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=moka+bialetti&btnG=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1#q=moka+bialetti&tbm=shop

Ticktock
14th February 2014, 09:06
Why does everybody insist on spending useless money on Nespresso and similar cr@p when all they have to do is to invest in a good moka pot:
Moka pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot)

I refuse to get locked into capsules, and agree that moka pots make a nice cup, especially for a short coffee. Although I have to admit I have absolutely no problem with instant coffee (if I make it - other people make it wrong so it tastes horrible!).


It must be a Bialetti:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=moka+bialetti&btnG=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1#q=moka+bialetti&tbm=shop

No. There are numerous brands, all producing virtually identical pots. They use the same materials, same dimensions. There is no real difference, apart from snobbery.

Scruff
14th February 2014, 09:37
Why does everybody insist on spending useless money on Nespresso and similar cr@p when all they have to do is to invest in a good moka pot:
Moka pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot)

It must be a Bialetti:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=moka+bialetti&btnG=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1#q=moka+bialetti&tbm=shop

'Cos they burn your hands to bits when you want to make multiple cups! Admittedly, I have used them in the past, but the inconvenience drove me nuts. :tantrum:

For an astonishing coffee at an astonishing price an an astonishing way of dispensing with the "puck" look no further than the Aeropress.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aerobie-AeroPress-80R08-Coffee-Maker/dp/B000GXZ2GS

aoxomoxoa
14th February 2014, 10:14
If you're using an espresso machine it lets you tailor the grind so it comes out just right.

I have an old dualit. Does the job. The Rancilio Rocky is supposed to be good but ain't cheap.

I've been using a Rancilio Rocky for about 10 years now. Not cheap but a superb grinder. Of course, unless you're using freshly roasted beans even a great grinder won't give you decent espresso.

Archangel
14th February 2014, 15:18
Another delonghi user here (mines a magnifica). Superb coffee. I set it to warm up whilst I'm still abed, then when I get up it's all ready to go. Two cappuccinos and I'm ready to face the world.

petergriffin
14th February 2014, 22:52
'Cos they burn your hands to bits when you want to make multiple cups!
How is that possible?

Scruff
15th February 2014, 08:18
How is that possible?

Having heated the blessed thing up on the cooker ring, you need to unscrew the water receptacle from the percolator to dump the puck and refill water and coffee - Doh!

That's the reason why I gave up on the Bialetti and went for a dedicated Espresso bar.

petergriffin
15th February 2014, 08:31
Having heated the blessed thing up on the cooker ring, you need to unscrew the water receptacle from the percolator to dump the puck and refill water and coffee - Doh!
I see. This is why you should buy the whole set: 2 cups, 3 cups and family, usually 6-7 cups. Altogether less that £100 for a genuine Bialetti set, and they look cool in the kitchen.

If you unscrew the moka pot not you will burn your hands, you also damage the pot itself.

norrahe
15th February 2014, 09:42
I see. This is why you should buy the whole set: 2 cups, 3 cups and family, usually 6-7 cups. Altogether less that £100 for a genuine Bialetti set, and they look cool in the kitchen.

If you unscrew the moka pot not you will burn your hands, you also damage the pot itself.

They are still pretty crap these days. They used to make decent ones about 20 years ago, but the ones you can buy now are tinny and awful.

Will stick to my bodum one-cup thanks! :D

doodab
15th February 2014, 09:44
I rather fancy one of these:

Caff Italia Professional Coffee Machines: La Spaziale S1-II Mini Vivaldi Black Coffee Machine, La Spaziale, spaziales1-black (http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=spaziales1-black)

http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/prodimages/la-spaziale-vivaldi-ii-black1.jpg

Or one of these which is a fair bit cheaper, seeing as I don't really drink that much coffee anymore:

Caff Italia Professional Coffee Machines: Nuova Simonelli Oscar Black, Nuova Simonelli Coffee Maker, nuova_simonelli_oscar_black (http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=nuova_simonelli_oscar_black)

http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/prodimages/oscar-black.jpg