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Umbrella or Ltd inside IR35?

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    Umbrella or Ltd inside IR35?

    Hey all,

    Do I understand correctly that the two options are very similar in terms of take home?

    I get the impression all major providers of the tax liability cover feel twitchy these days about reimbursing the potential tax liability, even when the contract passes the review. The majors I mean Qdos, Abbey, Accountax and OHara.

    Without the IR35 cover I'm not comfortable going on the outside, and hence the question about the brolly is relevant.

    Given a choice what would you do and why?

    Ta!

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    If I was you I would delete my CUK account and look for something else to do.
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      #3
      Originally posted by mickey View Post
      Hey all,

      Do I understand correctly that the two options are very similar in terms of take home?

      I get the impression all major providers of the tax liability cover feel twitchy these days about reimbursing the potential tax liability, even when the contract passes the review. The majors I mean Qdos, Abbey, Accountax and OHara.

      Without the IR35 cover I'm not comfortable going on the outside, and hence the question about the brolly is relevant.

      Given a choice what would you do and why?

      Ta!
      The take-home pay is closer when caught by IR35, but still a bit higher with a Ltd.

      What gives you the impression that insurance providers are getting twitchy about this? Qdos are still offering their TLC35 cover so I'd assume that they woudl still be happy to defend your case and pay out if they fail...

      Given the choice I'd say to go limited, not just for the extra cash but because I'd be more comfortable handling my money than exposing myself to third party risk as you would with an umbrella...

      Craig
      Last edited by Craig at Nixon Williams; 19 February 2014, 14:44.

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        #4
        If you do a one off job through a brolly you will struggle with expenses. And as Craig has said, why would you want to use one anyway? Better off managing your own affairs.

        However, expenses are the potential financial impact.

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          #5
          Originally posted by mickey View Post
          Hey all,

          Do I understand correctly that the two options are very similar in terms of take home?

          Ta!
          Broadly, yes. Own company gives you the potential benefit of flat rate vat and a bit more control, v increased admin.

          FWIW, caught by IR35 I would probably say brolly for quiet life.

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            #6
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            If I was you I would delete my CUK account and look for something else to do.
            Every opinion counts

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              #7
              Originally posted by mickey View Post
              Every opinion counts
              Glad I could add some value.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Jessica@WhiteFieldTax View Post
                Broadly, yes. Own company gives you the potential benefit of flat rate vat and a bit more control, v increased admin.

                FWIW, caught by IR35 I would probably say brolly for quiet life.
                Thank you

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Craig at Nixon Williams View Post
                  The take-home pay is closer when caught by IR35, but still a bit lower with a Ltd.
                  I'd have thought that the take-home via Ltd inside IR35 had the potential to be slightly higher than going brolly - FRS savings, 5% expenses etc. That assumes that the costs of an accountant are broadly similar to those of an umbrella company.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DirtyDog View Post
                    I'd have thought that the take-home via Ltd inside IR35 had the potential to be slightly higher than going brolly - FRS savings, 5% expenses etc. That assumes that the costs of an accountant are broadly similar to those of an umbrella company.
                    Oops!

                    That's what I meant...I'll edit my post so that I don't confuse anybody else.

                    Thanks
                    Craig

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