Can't believe we've missed this one...

[Gittins Gal]

Even in the DM, not a dickie bird. What's going on?

Net migration soars over 200,000 despite David Cameron's pledge

I thought this kind of story was the grist to the CUK mill! Maybe DA isn't around today

Anyway, here's the bit I'd like to chuck into the ring:

The surge was partly driven by a huge increase in the number of Romanian and Bulgarian citizens coming to Britain, which jumped 166 per cent from 9,000 to 24,000 year-on-year

Because (even though these figures don't include post 1st Jan figures) they've all been trotting out the line that nobody turned up except that poor sod who was greeted by Keith Vaz with a Starbuck's Mocchaccino upon arrival (and subsequently disappeared off the radar).

[doodab]

Even in the DM, not a dickie bird. What's going on?

Net migration soars over 200,000 despite David Cameron's pledge

I thought this kind of story was the grist to the CUK mill! Maybe DA isn't around today

Anyway, here's the bit I'd like to chuck into the ring:



Because (even though these figures don't include post 1st Jan figures) they've all been trotting out the line that nobody turned up except that poor sod who was greeted by Keith Vaz with a Starbuck's Mocchaccino upon arrival (and subsequently disappeared off the radar).

And the other 180,000 came from where?

[Gittins Gal]

And the other 180,000 came from where?

Quite a lot from Southern Europe, apparently... Fair play to them, I say

[darmstadt]

Even in the DM, not a dickie bird. What's going on?

Net migration soars over 200,000 despite David Cameron's pledge

I thought this kind of story was the grist to the CUK mill! Maybe DA isn't around today

Anyway, here's the bit I'd like to chuck into the ring:



Because (even though these figures don't include post 1st Jan figures) they've all been trotting out the line that nobody turned up except that poor sod who was greeted by Keith Vaz with a Starbuck's Mocchaccino upon arrival (and subsequently disappeared off the radar).

We have, just not Daily Bigot and Likes Little Girls in Bikinis and won't Apologise for their past (*): http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1897920


















(* Harmann has now apologised....

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[vetran]

We have, just not Daily Bigot and Likes Little Girls in Bikinis and won't Apologise for their past (*): http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1897920


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I was tempted but Mudskipper told me off last weekend! So it was from the Beeb.

Good to hear Harman has apologised

[petergriffin]

Does anybody believe that, if UK left the EU, there would be less immigrants? Just because the EU immigrants would have no automatic right to work, that doesn't mean that the government will not sign treaties with some 3rd world countries (India, China) to allow millions of unqualified and cheap workers.

However poor the Romanians, Bulgarians and possibly Ukrainians might be, their standard of life (in a broad sense) is several orders or magnitude higher than in some parts of Asia.

But the English peasant has been kept on booze and fags for too long to understand.

[mudskipper]

I was tempted but Mudskipper told me off last weekend! So it was from the Beeb.

Good to hear Harman has apologised

I had no idea I was so influential!

[Mich the Tester]

The surge was partly driven by a huge increase in the number of Romanian and Bulgarian citizens coming to Britain, which jumped 166 per cent from 9,000 to 24,000 year-on-year

Partly, yes, but this is rather decieving; there was actually a much larger increase in arrivals from Italy and Spain. I suppose there might have been a relatively 'huge' increase in numbers from Romania and Bulgaria, but the numbers were small anyway, so any increase can be made to appear 'huge'. Of course, it's the law of small numbers; an increase of 1 over 1 is a 100% increase. Bulgarians don't even feature in the DM's chart today.

[Gittins Gal]

Does anybody believe that, if UK left the EU, there would be less immigrants? Just because the EU immigrants would have no automatic right to work, that doesn't mean that the government will not sign treaties with some 3rd world countries (India, China) to allow millions of unqualified and cheap workers.

However poor the Romanians, Bulgarians and possibly Ukrainians might be, their standard of life (in a broad sense) is several orders or magnitude higher than in some parts of Asia.

But the English peasant has been kept on booze and fags for too long to understand.

Firstly, fewer.

You're probably right on that one.

Mass immigration is a global phenomenon - exactly the same unprecedented influx is being experienced in all western nations.

What the driving force for that is I don't know.

On one extreme you have people saying its a ploy by global capitalists to bring us all down to a single common denominator, abolish nationhood and create a global class of serfs to exploit at their will.

On the other end of the spectrum you have the lefties who have always been obsessed with internationalism and the abolition of nation states for their own idealogical reasons.

Maybe there's no intent behind it at all though. Perhaps the world is just a smaller place these days.

[Mich the Tester]

Firstly, fewer.

You're probably right on that one.

Mass immigration is a global phenomenon - exactly the same unprecedented influx is being experienced in all western nations.

What the driving force for that is I don't know.
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Maybe there's no intent behind it at all though. Perhaps the world is just a smaller place these days.

This. Don't go looking for conspiracies when basic geography and economics can explain it.