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    Bulltulip work

    Test Plan sent and awaiting second load of review comments . Oh the wonders of corporate templates and methodologies;

    1 hour spent writing content

    7 hours spent shoehorning content into crass corporate template

    send for review

    15 minutes spent correcting content after review

    7 hours and 45 minutes spent shoehorning corrected content into crass corporate template

    How does western business make a profit? Is the rest of the world even less efficient?
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

    #2
    My Team Leader has to spend most of his time messing around with the resource system, and trying to shoehorn our work into it. There's only four of us.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
      My Team Leader has to spend most of his time messing around with the resource system, and trying to shoehorn our work into it. There's only four of us.


      We have a situation where managers with secretaries read documents produced by engineers according to some template that assumes nobody went to school, then demand changes to the formatting and the names of test cases. Why not give the secretaries to the engineers to make the documents look nice and let us get on with producing code and tests?

      Clientco's directors are apparently concerned with the cost price of the products; well then stop making us waste 75% of our time producing moronic documents!
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        How does western business make a profit? Is the rest of the world even less efficient?
        At least yours does
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          #5
          Originally posted by Zippy View Post
          At least yours does
          Indeed. It baffles me though.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #6
            At my current place I think some of them think all you need is a template and that the content is just an afterthought. Bike shed effect. Any idiot can understand a set of headings, and endlessly debate the, only people doing stuff can provide the actual content.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DieScum View Post
              At my current place I think some of them think all you need is a template and that the content is just an afterthought. Bike shed effect. Any idiot can understand a set of headings, and endlessly debate the, only people doing stuff can provide the actual content.
              This is the problem. You see, I don't need a template to write a documet. I went to school and college where I wrote essays of up to 5000 words. I had to structure the content in such a way that the reader would understand what I was saying. I wonder why I bothered.

              Templates just get in the way and prevent me saying what I feel the reader really needs to know.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #8
                The Joel on software blog gets it spot on with his, now 14 year old, series of articles on writing specs. Painless Functional Specifications - Part 1: Why Bother? - Joel on Software

                Write the damn thing to be useful not follow a rigid, obviously ill fitting, template.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DieScum View Post
                  The Joel on software blog gets it spot on with his, now 14 year old, series of articles on writing specs. Painless Functional Specifications - Part 1: Why Bother? - Joel on Software

                  Write the damn thing to be useful not follow a rigid, obviously ill fitting, template.
                  Unfortunately the resident CMMi jerk is a believer in rigid, ill fitting templates.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #10
                    Templates are useful if they make your job easier.

                    Some certainly do; they prompt you to remember everything, have just the right level of prescription, and make you present information in a standard and helpful way.

                    Unfortunately most templates aren't designed by people who know how to design templates, and end up fairly crap. I recently had to work with a real horror, and it sounds like many here do as well. (Not the same one, obviously)

                    And let's not even get into the mis-use of drafting tools to create these abhorations.

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