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TykeMerc
28th May 2014, 14:43
Pretty nauseating.

BBC News - Pakistan acid attack parents 'feared dishonour' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20202686)

quackhandle
28th May 2014, 14:46
Pretty nauseating.

BBC News - Pakistan acid attack parents 'feared dishonour' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20202686)


Compared to some in Pakistan it makes the Waffen SS seem a decent bunch of lads. :eyes

qh

SimonMac
28th May 2014, 14:48
BBC News - Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27593504)

So a father kills his daughter, but its ok as her brother can forgive their father, I know we shouldn't judge others by our standards, but how can this be anything other than barbaric

original PM
28th May 2014, 14:49
It is barbaric

However it is allowed and expected because it is part of the religion so it must be okay

one of the main reasons why the world is going to hell in a handcart - people doing things and then blaming god for it....

cailin maith
28th May 2014, 14:50
BBC News - Pakistan woman stoned by family outside Lahore court (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27593504)

So a father kills his daughter, but its ok as her brother can forgive their father, I know we shouldn't judge others by our standards, but how can this be anything other than barbaric

Agreed - I read it earlier and it's horrific.

mudskipper
28th May 2014, 14:51
"Police say this is one of the first cases of its kind in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, where such killings are relatively rare.

In March the government of Pakistani-administered Kashmir made acid attacks a criminal offence punishable with life imprisonment."

A bit unfair to judge the country on the actions of a few nutjobs.

mudskipper
28th May 2014, 14:52
It is barbaric

However it is allowed and expected because it is part of the religion so it must be okay

one of the main reasons why the world is going to hell in a handcart - people doing things and then blaming god for it....

Where does it say that?

original PM
28th May 2014, 14:53
"Police say this is one of the first cases of its kind in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, where such killings are relatively rare.

In March the government of Pakistani-administered Kashmir made acid attacks a criminal offence punishable with life imprisonment."

A bit unfair to judge the country on the actions of a few nutjobs.

Oooh all of 2 months ago...

should this not have been done say 2 decades ago?

and whilst I agree re the nutjobs it is the reason why they did it that is the problem not what they did.

TykeMerc
28th May 2014, 14:53
one of the main reasons why the world is going to hell in a handcart - people doing things and then blaming god for it....

It's a primary reason why people invent religions, they're about political power and controlling people.

If you can invoke and blame some imaginary sky fairy to start and excuse horrific acts then it's an easy way to exploit people.

cailin maith
28th May 2014, 14:53
"Police say this is one of the first cases of its kind in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, where such killings are relatively rare.

In March the government of Pakistani-administered Kashmir made acid attacks a criminal offence punishable with life imprisonment."

A bit unfair to judge the country on the actions of a few nutjobs.

On the same BBC page there are links to other attacks - one is some poor sod who got stoned right outside a courthouse by her own family. WTF? No police or security at the courthouse?

There seems to be a lot of nutjobs :frown

original PM
28th May 2014, 14:54
Where does it say that?

does not need to say it - it is expected!

mudskipper
28th May 2014, 14:56
On the same BBC page there are links to other attacks - one is some poor sod who got stoned right outside a courthouse by her own family. WTF? No police or security at the courthouse?

There seems to be a lot of nutjobs :frown

There are a disproportionate number. However, they are trying to do something about it - it is not accepted as OK by the judicial system, blind eyes are not turned.

MicrosoftBob
28th May 2014, 14:58
blind eyes are not turned.

Doesn't that depend on how vicious the stoning is ?, after they're blinded they might well turn a bit before they're buried under stones

TykeMerc
28th May 2014, 15:16
Deliberate use of acid as a murder tool and then no attempt to engage medical treatment, that's not even murder that's plain unmitigated brutality.

doodab
28th May 2014, 15:18
Awful. At least it seems the government are starting to toe the line w.r.t. more widely accepted moral codes now.

xoggoth
28th May 2014, 16:01
Not exactly a fan of Islam but these are more cultural than Islamic problems. Pretty horrible things also go on in Hindu rural parts of India when people marry/have affairs outside their class or community.

doodab
28th May 2014, 16:26
Not exactly a fan of Islam but these are more cultural than Islamic problems.

This is a good point. It's not religion per se that's the issue, it's the use of religion to justify such practices when it ought to be used to show them up for the outdated and barbaric customs they are.

TykeMerc
28th May 2014, 16:45
This is a good point. It's not religion per se that's the issue, it's the use of religion to justify such practices when it ought to be used to show them up for the outdated and barbaric customs they are.

Absolutely true, however if the religions (which in that part of the world do have a very, very powerful voice which is listened to) don't condemn and punish the behaviours then they will continue.
It's also fair to say that the religions which don't actively condemn this sort of thing are at least tacitly encouraging it.

Evil, plain evil.

cailin maith
29th May 2014, 10:05
Heard more about this on the radio this morning & the woman who was stoned was 3 months pregnant.

Savages.

original PM
30th May 2014, 06:50
Heard more about this on the radio this morning & the woman who was stoned was 3 months pregnant.

Savages.

Nah its fine - apparently it was god's will.

stek
30th May 2014, 06:53
Not exactly a fan of Islam but these are more cultural than Islamic problems. Pretty horrible things also go on in Hindu rural parts of India when people marry/have affairs outside their class or community.

Which in turn becomes a claim for Asylum in UK...

mudskipper
30th May 2014, 06:59
Which in turn becomes a claim for Asylum in UK...

So what do you think we should do in that situation?

mudskipper
30th May 2014, 07:00
It's difficult (impossible) to understand how people that bring up a child can apparently not love them once they become an adult.

Is it only the woman that's 'guilty'? I don't remember hearing of such attacks on men.

original PM
30th May 2014, 07:03
It's difficult (impossible) to understand how people that bring up a child can apparently not love them once they become an adult.

Is it only the woman that's 'guilty'? I don't remember hearing of such attacks on men.

Sadly it would seem it is very very often the woman who is guilty.

I wonder though is it a regular thing or more just of a control thing - you know stone a few 'naughty' women every year keeps the rest in line?

stek
30th May 2014, 09:03
Nah its fine - apparently it was god's will.

Well she did say 'Jehovah'....

the_rangdo
30th May 2014, 09:18
And now turns out hubby killed his last wife so he could marry again.

original PM
30th May 2014, 09:41
And now turns out hubby killed his last wife so he could marry again.

That's the way to do it Mr Punch

MicrosoftBob
30th May 2014, 09:48
And now turns out hubby killed his last wife so he could marry again.

So really his is upset because he lost one of his possesions, the lack of compassion in bongo bongo land!