Alfred this is for you...

**darmstadt** · 30 August 2006, 20:08

Gog (hebräisch, Etymologie ungeklärt) ist beim Propheten Ezechiel der Fürst von Mesech und Thubal und wohnt im Lande Magog. In der Offenbarung des Johannes, im Neuen Testament der Bibel, werden mit Gog und Magog zwei Völker bezeichnet, die am jüngsten Tage vom Satan befreit werden. Gemeinsam mit ihm ziehen sie in den Kampf, werden jedoch am Ende von Christus besiegt. Die Erzählung von Gog und Magog hat, im Zuge der Alexanderrezeption, rege Verbreitung im deutschen Mittelalter gefunden.

Im Koran heißt es, dass Thulqarnain (möglicherweise entweder Kyros oder Alexander) gegen Gog und Magog (Ye'dcüc Medcüc) gekämpft haben soll. Er besiegte sie, indem er eine Mauer aus verschiedenen verschmolzenen Metallen baute. So konnten sie nicht ausbrechen, da sie nicht wussten, wie man diese Mauer zerstört. Vor dem jüngsten Tag werden sie die Mauer jedoch zerstören können und auf die Erde strömen, um dort von Jesus besiegt zu werden.

Step‘annos Orbelean beschreibt in seiner "Historia", dass Alexander die wilden Stämme des Nordens eingeschlossen hatte. Am Ende der Zeiten werden sie jedoch von Gog und Magog befreit, und sie verwüsten die ganze Welt, und der "Sohn der Zerstörung" wird sich erheben, gefolgt vom Wieder-Erscheinen Christi und der Vernichtung der Ungläubigen.

Geoffrey von Monmouth in der Historia Regum Britanniae (Geschichte der Könige Britanniens) (1, 17, um 1136) erzählt, wie die Insel Britannien von trojanischen Flüchtlingen unter Brutus besiedelt wurde. Corineus, einer seiner Gefolgsleute, wurde der Herrscher von Cornwall, wo es besonders viele Riesen gab. Der scheußlichste davon, Gogmagog, war dreieinhalb Meter groß und so stark, dass er ganze Eichbäume ausreißen konnte. Als Gogmagog und zwanzig andere Riesen Brutus während eines Gottesdienstes angriffen, ließ er sie töten bis auf Gogmagog, der zu seiner Unterhaltung mit Corineus ringen sollte. Gogmagog brach Corineus drei Rippen, aber dann schleppte ihn dieser an die Küste und warf ihn von den Klippen ins Meer, wo er zerschellte.

**oraclesmith** · 30 August 2006, 20:16

Geoffrey of Monmouth, don't make me laugh. Once upon a time there lived a boy called Arthur...

**darmstadt** · 30 August 2006, 20:17

Jehovah and Allah took a cigarette break between the mackerel and the
meat course. They were reminiscing as usual. "I wonder whatever happened
to that Eric Clapton chappie. Bit of a moody bugger, be was," Allah
mused, blowing a perfect smoke ring. "Haven't seen him around for a few
years now. I suppose folk must have stopped believing he was a God, so
he's left us."

"Good riddance," Jehovah muttered, "cocky little git. Mind you, not half
as bad as that Duke of Edinburgh. Self opinionated twat if ever I heard
one. Who's responsible for worshipping a bore like that?"

"Some tribe in Borneo or New Guinea, one of those places. Beats me why
they don't stick to tree's and rock's, at least they keep their gob's
shut. Most of the time." Allah shivered as one billion humans faced
Mecca and confirmed his existence, then he continued: "Remember that
bleeding great helicopter what turned up, then those Amazonians made
it their God. I really enjoyed that. Didn't say a word, just lay around
behaving itself and rusting to buggery. Not like Eric Clapton".

"Or the Duke of Edinburgh," said Jehovah, scratching his chin. "Tell
you who I miss though. I miss Marilyn Monroe. Now there was a real
Goddess".

Allah sighed agreement. "Yeah, she was something. Very clever lady.
But these screen goddesses don't last very long. Who is it now,
whatsername, moves like a cat." He picked at a tooth. "What's her name?
Sun Myung Moon? Or is that the one with the specs? Can't remember, they
come and go. Moves like a cat. Pass the toothpicks Jay, sodding
mackerel bone."

"I loved it when this place was crawling with cats. Really relaxing
watching them, letting them rub against you. Pity the Egyptians going
over to worship you Al, heh heh." The old Gods chuckled and wheezed,
same as every meal time, day after day, century after century, just
waiting to be forgotten. Then they heard Him coming, the Supreme Being.
His power growing ever greater as more and more humans worshipped Him
above all others. Jehovah and Allah cast their eyes downwards as He
approached, half jealous, half afraid, very tired.

At last He spoke. "I see you've started dinner without me, gentlemen.
Not very polite". The geriatrics shifted their bums uneasily and
muttered "Sorry. No offence. Won't happen again." The Yen took his
seat at the head of the table.

**xoggoth** · 30 August 2006, 20:19

OOOh, OOOh I know that one

Gog and Magog
Agreed to have a battle;
For Gog said Magog
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.

**CaribbeanPirate** · 30 August 2006, 20:25

Originally posted by oraclesmith

Geoffrey of Monmouth, don't make me laugh. Once upon a time there lived a boy called Arthur...

Oh Arthur, once and future King of England. You promised to return at the time of England’s greatest need. My Lord Arthur, that time is now.

**Mordac** · 30 August 2006, 21:34

Originally posted by oraclesmith

Once upon a time there lived a boy called Arthur...

Give him a chance, he's only 6 months old...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4724246.stm

**oraclesmith** · 30 August 2006, 21:38

Maybe Arthur Elwen Cameron is the Messiah !

**DaveB** · 30 August 2006, 22:04

Originally posted by oraclesmith

Maybe Arthur Elwen Cameron is the Messiah !

"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

Sorry, couldnt resist

**Chico** · 31 August 2006, 11:55

Alfred any comments so far?

Alfred this is for you...