Leaving Europe?

[BlasterBates]

No what he means is the UK has not left Europe - we are still geographically located in the continent of Europe - not on mainland Europe as I am sure you are still aware.

What we have done is to get rid of a bunch of politicians.

...and our rights to live and work in Europe, so sure Europe is still there we just can't go there any more.

[BrilloPad]

...and our rights to live and work in Europe.

We have no rights. Only obligations.

[original PM]

...and our rights to live and work in Europe, so sure Europe is still there we just can't go there any more.

Why do you say that?

I have lost the right to randomly go to another European country and expect to be treated the same as if I was in the UK but it is still possible for me to go and work in Europe.

And the same applies to people from all over the world including EU members who wish to come and work in the UK.

[BlasterBates]

Why do you say that?

I have lost the right to randomly go to another European country and expect to be treated the same as if I was in the UK but it is still possible for me to go and work in Europe.

And the same applies to people from all over the world including EU members who wish to come and work in the UK.

It's going to be a lot more difficult and you certainly won't be able to contract as self-employed while being resident in the UK.

It will be as "easy" as going to the US or Japan. How many contracts have you done in the US or Japan ?

You won't be phoning an agent who'll simply place you somewhere in Europe.

[original PM]

It's going to be a lot more difficult and you certainly won't be able to contract as self-employed while being resident in the UK.

It will be as "easy" as going to the US or Japan. How many contracts have you done in the US or Japan ?

You won't be phoning an agent who'll simply place you somewhere in Europe.

Indeed - but then I do not think a very large percentage of the population will see this as a loss.

Even amongst the remainers how many have ever harboured any desire to go and live and work in Europe?

Yes many people go on holiday to Europe - that will not change.

And I am pretty sure as long as I am not expecting the state to help or expecting to be able to wore there is nothing really stopping me from buying and living in a property in Europe.

[BlasterBates]

Indeed - but then I do not think a very large percentage of the population will see this as a loss.

Even amongst the remainers how many have ever harboured any desire to go and live and work in Europe?

Yes many people go on holiday to Europe - that will not change.

And I am pretty sure as long as I am not expecting the state to help or expecting to be able to wore there is nothing really stopping me from buying and living in a property in Europe.

No you won't that isn't how the rules work in Germany for example. Sure you can stay in a hotel for 3 months but then you have to leave, you certainly can't go and live in a rented flat because landlords expect you to be registered, but what you can possibly do is buy property, you just can't live in it.

This is not the UK where no-one gives a sh*t once you're there, and the same goes for every other European country except the UK of course.

[fatboyslim]

EU, not Europe.

[BlasterBates]

EU, not Europe.

Since virtually every country in Europe is also either in the EU or is a "vassal state" of the EU as Turkey and the Ukraine are, there's not a lot of difference really.

[BlasterBates]

Europe with the UK as part of it will be limited to Satellite photos, for all other purposes the UK might as well be in the middle of the pacific.

[fatboyslim]

Things tend to sort themselves out in the end, am optimistic it will all be good... when we are older and wiser we will be telling our grandkids how silly we were, and the fuss we made over nothing.