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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostOne might have expected some sort of condemnation.................after all, they were very quick off the mark when it was the Israelis getting heavy-handed................and that falls way outside their supposed remit.
https://www.dw.com/en/eu-calls-for-u...der/a-43295204
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1C712PComment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostOf course, our boys would never take to a civilian with a truncheon.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostThen you’re simply not Googling hard enough. Took me less than a minute.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1C712P
"Pressed by reporters, Schinas declined to say specifically that the EU was condemning Spanish police tactics, though it was their actions at polling stations on Sunday which mostly shocked fellow Europeans and generated public pressure that saw other governments including Germany and France call for more dialogue."
Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View Postfrom your link;
"Pressed by reporters, Schinas declined to say specifically that the EU was condemning Spanish police tactics, though it was their actions at polling stations on Sunday which mostly shocked fellow Europeans and generated public pressure that saw other governments including Germany and France call for more dialogue."
There was condemnation of the violence, therefore the question was answered. Sorry if the answer doesn’t meet any more of a narrow interpretation.
Which still doesn’t answer my question: if there was a riot in the U.K. (and there have been a few...) what exactly would you expect the EU to do?Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostOf course, our boys would never take to a civilian with a truncheon.
Ian was an innocent newspaper seller who was not even in the protest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIgAXMh73a0"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George OrwellComment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostThe question from SB was “might have expected some sort of condemnation”.
There was condemnation of the violence, therefore the question was answered. Sorry if the answer doesn’t meet any more of a narrow interpretation.
Which still doesn’t answer my question: if there was a riot in the U.K. (and there have been a few...) what exactly would you expect the EU to do?
Let's ask a different question: Do you believe the Spanish police acted with the appropriate level of force, for the situation of citizens (some elderly) trying to write an 'x' on some paper?Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostAre you honestly trying to compare a (British) riot, and the Catalans attempting to vote in a referendum???
Let's ask a different question: Do you believe the Spanish police acted with the appropriate level of force, for the situation of citizens (some elderly) trying to write an 'x' on some paper?
What would you actually expect the EU to do if there was a case of heavy-handedness by UK police?
Once you have your answer to that, then you can apply it to the Spanish question.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostPerhaps I phrased it clumsily, but you’re still avoiding the question and trying to deflect.
What would you actually expect the EU to do if there was a case of heavy-handedness by UK police?
Once you have your answer to that, then you can apply it to the Spanish question.
During the London riots, some police were targeted by some rioters, therefore IF police had become heavy-handed with some of them, I'm pretty confident the silent majority would have said the little scrotes deserved some baton love.
During the Catalan referendum, citizens & the elderly (some with their children) were waiting, queuing and voting by putting pens to paper - which preceded some police violence, which was quite rightfully condemned by most...
Your link stated a spokesperson said;
""Pressed by reporters, Schinas declined to say specifically that the EU was condemning Spanish police tactics"
So, yes, the EU should have roundly condemned the Spanish state (& the police), for using force to interrupt a democratic exercise.
Will you answer my question now?
Do you believe the Spanish police acted with the appropriate level of force, for the situation of citizens (some elderly) trying to write an 'x' on some paper?Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by Bean View PostProportionality....
During the London riots, some police were targeted by some rioters, therefore IF police had become heavy-handed with some of them, I'm pretty confident the silent majority would have said the little scrotes deserved some baton love.
During the Catalan referendum, citizens & the elderly (some with their children) were waiting, queuing and voting by putting pens to paper - which preceded some police violence, which was quite rightfully condemned by most...
Your link stated a spokesperson said;
""Pressed by reporters, Schinas declined to say specifically that the EU was condemning Spanish police tactics"
So, yes, the EU should have roundly condemned the Spanish state (& the police), for using force to interrupt a democratic exercise.
Will you answer my question now?
Do you believe the Spanish police acted with the appropriate level of force, for the situation of citizens (some elderly) trying to write an 'x' on some paper?
That’s it? Just a statement, no further action?
That seems to be slightly different to what OPM was expecting. Which is okay, we all have different opinions of what the appropriate response should have been.
But we’re agreed then that apart from a strongly worded statement there is no other action that the EU could have done. Because Spain is a sovereign country.Comment
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