Brexit talks hit real problem - hard Brexit here we come!

[original PM]

Ok so no one said we would not do any trade with countries in the EU did they?

Or was that written on a bus somewhere.

There are approx 202 countries on the World - only 27 are in the EU so that does leave a little over 180 left to play with.

The world changes quickly - compare China twenty years ago to now - repeat that for many African countries.

But no you sit in your smug self-righteous ivory tower convinced you are correct because in reality you voted to stay in because you are too scared of change, because in reality you could not care about anyone but yourself and your own pocket.

That was the real crux of this vote and you simply cannot why anyone would want to vote for anything beyond how it will affect your tiny little world and your mediocre income.

[Eirikur]

Ok so no one said we would not do any trade with countries in the EU did they?

Or was that written on a bus somewhere.

There are approx 202 countries on the World - only 27 are in the EU so that does leave a little over 180 left to play with.

The world changes quickly - compare China twenty years ago to now - repeat that for many African countries.

But no you sit in your smug self-righteous ivory tower convinced you are correct because in reality you voted to stay in because you are too scared of change, because in reality you could not care about anyone but yourself and your own pocket.

That was the real crux of this vote and you simply cannot why anyone would want to vote for anything beyond how it will affect your tiny little world and your mediocre income.

We have the best trade deal possible with our biggest economical partner- the EU 44% of UK export goes to the EU, no barriers no tariffs etc. Why do you want to make that worse?
Yes trade won't stop but it will be more complicated, paperwork, tariffs, border checks all resulting in higher prices of Uk products in the EU and EU products in the UK.
The EU as a bloc is also able to make much more favorable deals with countries such as China than the UK on its own, why wouldn't you want that?

The real crux of the vote btw was immigration, which is not going to reduce as there will be simply more immigrants from other countries mainly Asia

[Cirrus]

Unfortunately no lights being shone.

There are approx 202 countries on the World - only 27 are in the EU so that does leave a little over 180 left to play with.

The world changes quickly - compare China twenty years ago to now - repeat that for many African countries.

But no you sit in your smug self-righteous ivory tower convinced you are correct because in reality you voted to stay in because you are too scared of change, because in reality you could not care about anyone but yourself and your own pocket. ...your tiny little world and your mediocre income.

180 countries to play with and you can't name one. That's terribly disappointing, Original. Disappointing to us, but not also to you? Aren't you a little ashamed you had the opportunity to win this argument with and handful of words. Even one might have done. But you couldn't. You couldn't remember anything anybody else has said in the way of evidence. And couldn't think of anything yourself.

As you can guess, my question was rhetorical. I was more-or-less certain you wouldn't be able to come up with anything but pointless, miserable offensive remarks. The idea that there is some Brexit bonus in terms of world trade is ridiculous and diminishes anybody who spouts such rubbish.

[sasguru]

Ok so no one said we would not do any trade with countries in the EU did they?

Or was that written on a bus somewhere.

There are approx 202 countries on the World - only 27 are in the EU so that does leave a little over 180 left to play with.

The world changes quickly - compare China twenty years ago to now - repeat that for many African countries.

But no you sit in your smug self-righteous ivory tower convinced you are correct because in reality you voted to stay in because you are too scared of change, because in reality you could not care about anyone but yourself and your own pocket.

That was the real crux of this vote and you simply cannot why anyone would want to vote for anything beyond how it will affect your tiny little world and your mediocre income.

Stupidity of this level deserves the "best" possible Brexit - i.e. a real, hard one. I hope you get it.

As any parent knows sometimes you must let have the kids have what they want so they find out for themselves why it's a bad idea

[BlasterBates]

Stupidity of this level deserves the "best" possible Brexit - i.e. a real, hard one. I hope you get it.

As any parent knows sometimes you must let have the kids have what they want so they find out for themselves why it's a bad idea

Indeed but it does look like the "grown-ups" will put together a deal.

Grown-ups agree a compromise

[WTFH]

Indeed but it does look like the "grown-ups" will put together a deal.

Grown-ups agree a compromise

It says that the grown ups have come up with suggestions. It does not say that they have agreed to it.
Removing the headline and xenophobic rhetoric of the paper we end up with:

"There is a possible space to find an agreement," said one French official.

And today French finance minister Bruno Le Maire confirmed that a Brexit deal was not far away and could be reached in the coming weeks. In an interview with France’s Radio Classique he said: “We are not far from a deal.”

But his (Macron's) officials yesterday indicated that fresh proposals for a "temporary backstop" contingency plan as an insurance policy designed to keep no hard border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic could be put on the table.
Their compromise included a guarantee the so-called backstop would be "temporary" but "without too precise an end date", the Elysee Palace source said.

So, the headline that France has caved in, turns out the detail is that France is agreeing with the rest of the EU27 about a backstop solution, something which the UK Govt, particularly the DUP have said "NO!" to. DUP threat over Brexit backstop deal - BBC News

[Whorty]

Ok so no one said we would not do any trade with countries in the EU did they?

Or was that written on a bus somewhere.

There are approx 202 countries on the World - only 27 are in the EU so that does leave a little over 180 left to play with.

The world changes quickly - compare China twenty years ago to now - repeat that for many African countries.

But no you sit in your smug self-righteous ivory tower convinced you are correct because in reality you voted to stay in because you are too scared of change, because in reality you could not care about anyone but yourself and your own pocket.

That was the real crux of this vote and you simply cannot why anyone would want to vote for anything beyond how it will affect your tiny little world and your mediocre income.

wah, wah, wah, bbbbbut, we won

[WTFH]

Indeed but it does look like the "grown-ups" will put together a deal.

Grown-ups agree a compromise

It's almost like the Express published one thing, then later on the opposite was posted in reliable news sources.

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...-scenario.html

Brexit live: Now is the time for a deal, Theresa May tells EU - latest news

[AtW]

The time will be when EU says it is, not a second sooner.