German car firms were meant to make sure we got a good Brexit deal. What happened?

[AtW]

You need to read beyond the headline of the principle, before spouting off about others being morons...

Pareto principle is 80-20, that's what it is.

98-2 is NOT a Pareto principle.

Obviously being correct is optional for moronic Brexiters, even when explicitly pointed out you still insist on your "alternative facts".

[Whorty]

So you are informing us all that powertrain design, as you stated, does not significantly improving the design of Changan cars.

Please, please refrain from posting childish insults. It does nothing to add to the discussion and debate. Or I may have to knock you teeth so far down your throat you'll have to shove a toothbush up your a*se to clean them.

Very typical of a brexiter response ... agree with me or there will be violence.

[Old Greg]

Your point being? We have engineered some of the best cars in the world. Stop running this country down. If you don't like it....leave.

You should tell JRM that.

[Old Greg]

Very typical of a brexiter response ... agree with me or there will be violence.

Britain First!

[Platypus]

Very typical of a brexiter response ... agree with me or there will be violence.

Interesting, it's the remainers I know who get flustered then very angry when you don't agree with them.

[WTFH]

Interesting, it's the remainers I know who get flustered then very angry when you don't agree with them.

Or get bored when their questions remain unanswered by those who can't argue against logic or realise and accept that they were sold a lie, but don't want to admit it or change their mind.

[Bean]

Pareto principle is 80-20, that's what it is.

98-2 is NOT a Pareto principle.

Obviously being correct is optional for moronic Brexiters, even when explicitly pointed out you still insist on your "alternative facts".

You need to read up more on the Pareto Principle.

"The point of the Pareto principle is to recognize that most things in life are not distributed evenly."

Which is precisely the context, in which I used it.

Google is your friend, perhaps query if Pareto is always 80-20 and see what results are listed?

[BlasterBates]

Pareto principle - Wikipedia

The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule, the law of the vital few, or the principle of factor sparsity)[1][2] states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.[3]

no it's not 2% 98%

[Eirikur]

Pareto principle - Wikipedia



no it's not 2% 98%

Don't start using facts, he's a brexidiot

[WTFH]

2% of the team are working on powertrain design. That means the engine.

98% are working on other areas of research and development outside of powertrain design. These include body shell, transmission, suspension, steering, brakes, electrical, interior design.

I'm not assuming the work is relatively evenly spread, I am stating that 2% of the R&D team are working on the engines.

Yorkie was of the opinion that I had no idea what R&D was going on in the UK for this particular company, but he also believed that the UK R&D team was "drastically improving" the design of the cars.
The UK R&D team works with other teams internationally to develop the overall design of the cars. As yet the UK team has not come out with any drastic improvements - they're still using the 3 and 4 cylinder engines although they may get better designs through in the future as their chief designer is ex-Cosworth. It will be interesting to see the plans going forward and how much they go for in-house design of hybrid and electric engines, how much they leverage their associations with Ford, Isuzu, Mazda, PSA and Suzuki.

Good point, well made.
Drastic improvement from the powertrain team would be things like scrapping all existing engines to replace them with drastically more efficient/powerful engines.