MP Attempts to subvert the will of parliamnet, colludes with foreign power.

[cosmic]

Brexit voters and supporters are far right wing haters, cheats and bigots. They are killing this country with their Sick twisted rose tinted views. First the lies and miss information leading up to the vote, the mess in parliament, giving buddies preferential treatment on contracts, obstructing democratic processes which they want or the reason they voted to leave and colluding with the same eu countries that want to depart from against the British people.

[DaveB]

No as I understand it it is totally within the EU gift to extend A50. UK parliament can request an extension but the EU is the only organisation with the power to extend the A50 deadline. To do so the EU must unanimously agree amongst the 27 members to do so. Any one of the 27 can veto the extension.

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And Mr Kawczynski has just, very publicly, asked the Polish Government to do exactly that regardless of what the other 26 agree.

[Yorkie62]

And Mr Kawczynski has just, very publicly, asked the Polish Government to do exactly that regardless of what the other 26 agree.

If you say so. It's call politics. It's a game individuals get to play when selected via a voting system. So long as Mr Kawczynski isn't doing anything illegal like blackmailing the Polish Goverment into doing what he wants there is nothing anyone can do about it. Get over it. Move on. It's something over which you have no control.

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[Yorkie62]

There is no subversion going on. Unless you are of the opinion that Politics is subversive. Now that could be an interesting topic for discussion.

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[original PM]

There is no subversion going on. Unless you are of the opinion that Politics is subversive. Now that could be an interesting topic for discussion.

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Well indeed - it opens a whole can of worms - but I guess ultimately the question will boil down to whether you want more or less politicians having influence over you.

Do not know of anyone wanting more.. oh wait except for those other lot

[GreenMirror]

I thought Brexit was about democracy, taking back control and regaining parliamentary sovereignty, not asking other countries to interfear in our democratic processes and block the will of that parliament?

The will of parliament is to stay. The will of the people is to leave.

[GreenMirror]

Well indeed - it opens a whole can of worms - but I guess ultimately the question will boil down to whether you want more or less politicians having influence over you.

Do not know of anyone wanting more.. oh wait except for those other lot

What I finding interesting is that most labour party members want to remain. Most labour voters want to leave.

[Old Greg]

What I finding interesting is that most labour party members want to remain. Most labour voters want to leave.

Is that true?

[Whorty]

the will of parliament is to stay. The will of the people in 2016, based on misinformation, was to leave. Recent polls show that this may not be the case anymore hence the swivel eyed panic and threats now from the extreme right.

ftfy hth

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[Whorty]

No as I understand it it is totally within the EU gift to extend A50. UK parliament can request an extension but the EU is the only organisation with the power to extend the A50 deadline. To do so the EU must unanimously agree amongst the 27 members to do so. Any one of the 27 can veto the extension.

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Why spout these lies?

It is no more in the EU gift to extend A50 without the UK's consent as it is the UK to extend without the EU consent. Both parties have to agree to the extension for it to happen. This ensures we keep control of leaving the EU and they can't stop unilaterally stop brexit (which is what you want, so what are you whinging about?).

If however we decide we need to extend A50 to avoid a cliff edge we have to ask the EU to agree.

This is no different from the EU seeing the cliff edge coming, and also wanting to avoid it and they need to ask us to agree to an extension A50.

This is quite simple ... do you not understand this?

OK, let me put this in contractor terms. You have a 6 month contract. You're coming to the end of the 6 months. You'd like to extend ... but you can only do this if the client agrees. Oh, but there is also the reverse of this, the client wants you to extend so they have to ask you if you will agree to extend.

Neither you or the client can extend the contract without the agreement of the other party. Neither has power over the other to force an extension. No different to A50.

Only difference is that, with A50 the UK can rescind whether the EU likes it or not. The EU has no power to rescind A50. So in many ways, we have more control and power than they do. But, this doesn't fit your narrative does it?