EU takes control: Humiliated Theresa May is given just a two week extension

[Yorkie62]

Parliament can create almost any rule it likes as long as it is not dissolved.

It would be neater however to extend the date of departure and then hold the vote of no confidence.

The key is if a vote of no confidence in the government wins (the ayes have it) then then government ceases to exist and is replaced with an interim government which lasts only two weeks (enough time to put a GE in place). At this point parliament has no power to bring forth any new legislation and hence the 29th march (currently enshrined in UK law) cannot be changed. Therefore the default position would be no deal on the 29th March. The point at which a vote of no confidence is tabled and wins parliament is effectively dissolved, although it continues to sit for two weeks to arrange the technicalities/legalities/niceties' of a GE.

[Old Greg]

The key is if a vote of no confidence in the government wins (the ayes have it) then then government ceases to exist and is replaced with an interim government which lasts only two weeks (enough time to put a GE in place). At this point parliament has no power to bring forth any new legislation and hence the 29th march (currently enshrined in UK law) cannot be changed. Therefore the default position would be no deal on the 29th March. The point at which a vote of no confidence is tabled and wins parliament is effectively dissolved, although it continues to sit for two weeks to arrange the technicalities/legalities/niceties' of a GE.

Parliament can (in advance of a no confidence vote) give itself the power to pass legislation after a no confidence vote.

[MattZani]

May has no plan B she will keep putting the same plan to the same vote until she gets enough MPs to back it, either by bribery (DUP more money) or fear ('my deal or no deal').

Can she even do that? Didn't she try already a couple of days ago but John Bercow ruled out the option of voting again on the same deal?

If that was the case, it would mean no deal? She cannot ask mp's to vote on that same deal and the EU has made it clear many times that that's the only deal UK is ever going to get. I don't know...

[stonehenge]

Therefore the default position would be no deal on the 29th March.

Secondary legislation is already being tabled to change that date to 12 April.

[Hobosapien]

Can she even do that? Didn't she try already a couple of days ago but John Bercow ruled out the option of voting again on the same deal?

If that was the case, it would mean no deal? She cannot ask mp's to vote on that same deal and the EU has made it clear many times that that's the only deal UK is ever going to get. I don't know...

Well she is still banging on about holding another vote next week so she must know it is possible, or maybe not. She may just be totally cuckoo and needs a hard reset.

[stonehenge]

The Withdrawal Agreement has changed.

29 March 2019 -> 12 April 2019

[Old Greg]

The Withdrawal Agreement has changed.

29 March 2019 -> 12 April 2019

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

Forcing A GE now can only result in a no deal as we are legally, as of today, still leaving on the 29th March. Until both UK and EU law is changed that is the default position.

The agreement from last night will be legally ratified by the EU today. This officially changes the leave date, regardless of any UK legislation.

The "exit date" in UK law does not define the day that EU treaties cease to apply - EU law does. However the "exit date" in UK law is still important as it is used by reference in numerous other pieces of Brexit legislation so it does still need to be changed to be the same as the actual leave date to avoid all kinds of legislative nightmares.

The exit date in UK law will be changed next week by statutory instrument.

Changing EU ‘exit day’ by Statutory Instrument | Hansard Society

[BlasterBates]

The key is if a vote of no confidence in the government wins (the ayes have it) then then government ceases to exist and is replaced with an interim government which lasts only two weeks (enough time to put a GE in place). At this point parliament has no power to bring forth any new legislation and hence the 29th march (currently enshrined in UK law) cannot be changed. Therefore the default position would be no deal on the 29th March. The point at which a vote of no confidence is tabled and wins parliament is effectively dissolved, although it continues to sit for two weeks to arrange the technicalities/legalities/niceties' of a GE.

The UK defers to EU law, the exit day 29th March was set by EU law, that EU law has now been changed so that the exit date is 12th April. If the parliament does nothing, the UK does not exit the EU on 29th March.

Aren't they clever, the EU.

[BlasterBates]

The EU wasn't born yesterday.