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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostEventually there will. Large asteroid, nearby supernova, super volcano. Even surviving all that the sun will eventually swell up and consume the Earth.
It's fairly well established that as standards of living improve, birth rate dwindles. Peak population is estimated to be about 8.1 Billion, reached in the next 20 years or so.
Where there is wealth, populations decline, and nature can prosper. There are wolves again in continental Europe (rich). Tiger populations are stabilising (medium wealthy countries). Lions are declining - poor countries.
To generate wealth, we gave to exploit the resources we have. Eventually, we'll use them to construct the technology to get us off this blue target in space.
Whereas many would like to think this might be possible, look at the stark realities of physics, as we know them today. On the face of it, even travelling at the speed of light would seem impossible given our current understanding of the laws of physics. So, let's assume we could travel at the speed of light.
As far as I know at the moment, feel free to prove me wrong, no planets have been discovered of the same size as the Earth which inhabit the "Goldilocks zone" of their stars and certainly none near enough to be reachable within a human lifetime at the speed of light. Then there is Einstein's theory of relativity to consider.
I'm afraid this old Earth is doomed to be consumed by our friendly star in about 4000 millions years from now. Whether or not human beings as we know them now will still be in existence by then on a yet to be discovered planet, remains to be seen, unless a method of traversing the Universe sufficiently quickly is discovered and which doesn't comply with the theory of relativity. .Comment
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Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post"Eventually, we'll use them to construct the technology to get us off this blue target in space"
Whereas many would like to think this might be possible, look at the stark realities of physics, as we know them today. On the face of it, even travelling at the speed of light would seem impossible given our current understanding of the laws of physics. So, let's assume we could travel at the speed of light.
As far as I know at the moment, feel free to prove me wrong, no planets have been discovered of the same size as the Earth which inhabit the "Goldilocks zone" of their stars and certainly none near enough to be reachable within a human lifetime at the speed of light. Then there is Einstein's theory of relativity to consider.
I'm afraid this old Earth is doomed to be consumed by our friendly star in about 4000 millions years from now. Whether or not human beings as we know them now will still be in existence by then on a yet to be discovered planet, remains to be seen, unless a method of traversing the Universe sufficiently quickly is discovered and which doesn't comply with the theory of relativity. .
2. For interstellar travel with our current understanding of physics, we'd need multi-generational ships, or some kind of suspended animation. Or a cure for aging.
3. Earth like planets - you're wrong and your knowledge is about 5 years out of date. NASA's Kepler Discovers First Earth-Size Planet In The Habitable Zone – Exoplanet Exploration: Planets Beyond our Solar SystemDown with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post1. Interplanetary travel would be a good start. Colonise the asteroids.
2. For interstellar travel with your current understanding of physics, we'd need multi-generational ships, or some kind of suspended animation. Or a cure for aging.
3. Earth like planets - you're wrong and your knowledge is about 5 years out of date. NASA's Kepler Discovers First Earth-Size Planet In The Habitable Zone – Exoplanet Exploration: Planets Beyond our Solar System
quite!
3. Earth like planets - you're wrong and your knowledge is about 5 years out of date. I did stand to be corrected
but perhaps I should have made it clearer. Have there been any Earth sized planets discovered which are reachable within a human lifespan with our current level of technology or even at the speed of light, and at a distance where the theory of relativity would not need to be considered?
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Kepler 186F
The planet orbits a red dwarf. Now I'm not an Astro Physicist, but I guess that might have some consideration for life as we know it. Additionally, my understanding is that a red dwarf is in a later stage of life than our sun, and I guess would expire before ours does.
Is there there is water on the planet? I guess this couldn't be detected with our current technology.
Is there an atmosphere containing oxygen? Again, I guess this couldn't be detected with our current technology
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Kepler-186f's location within the habitable zone does not ensure it is habitable
My interpretation of the term "Goldilocks zone" and again I may be wrong, is one where life as we know it today could survive. There doesn't seem to be any evidence so far that this term applies to Kepler 186f.Last edited by JohntheBike; 29 April 2019, 12:04.Comment
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Colonise the asteroids and then build your interstellar generation ships from the asteroids.
As long as you have enough of the volatile asteroids to provide water/oxygen etc you are sorted.
As for me I am going to make one of these Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia
Sorted!Comment
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Originally posted by Goosefeather View PostComment
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These ****wits do not have a scooby doo.
From Discover on Google Extinction Rebellion told prison is not a 'yoga retreat' - BBC NewsComment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostColonise the asteroids and then build your interstellar generation ships from the asteroids.
As long as you have enough of the volatile asteroids to provide water/oxygen etc you are sorted.[/url]
Originally posted by original PM View PostThese ****wits do not have a scooby doo.
From Discover on Google Extinction Rebellion told prison is not a 'yoga retreat' - BBC NewsDown with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere;2644671[B]If we had a way of easily getting fusion power, we could make any elements that we want. Shame fusion is still 20-40 years away...[/B]
Look on the bright side. With the level of intelligence and awareness they've shown so far, they won't last long.Comment
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