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    Labour leaders voting LibDem in EU elections. Conservative leaders on the wrong side not knowing how to effect an EU exit. Labour tending toward remain when most Brexit voters were Labour voters. None of the main parties have any credibility left and are simply being buffeted by the raging storm of Brexit which will continue until sated. A new party going from zero to winning an election and looking to slingshot forward with crowd pleasing rhetoric. All they need is to flesh out some general policies and the national elections might be in their grasp given the fragmentation and lemming politics of their opposition. We're seeing a change of the old order and a political revolution that's still to run its course. The Brexit party now has a large number of well known and seasoned politicians in the EU parliament and they'll be supported by similar politicians elected in other member states.

    So the old order of Conservative, Labour, Liberal The new order of an independent UK or radically changed EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazdevil View Post
    Labour leaders voting LibDem in EU elections. Conservative leaders on the wrong side not knowing how to effect an EU exit. Labour tending toward remain when most Brexit voters were Labour voters. None of the main parties have any credibility left and are simply being buffeted by the raging storm of Brexit which will continue until sated. A new party going from zero to winning an election and looking to slingshot forward with crowd pleasing rhetoric. All they need is to flesh out some general policies and the national elections might be in their grasp given the fragmentation and lemming politics of their opposition. We're seeing a change of the old order and a political revolution that's still to run its course. The Brexit party now has a large number of well known and seasoned politicians in the EU parliament and they'll be supported by similar politicians elected in other member states.

    So the old order of Conservative, Labour, Liberal The new order of an independent UK or radically changed EU
    A bit like the old Weimar republic, just what the Brexiters,, nationalists and populists want. Welcome to the New World Order...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    A bit like the old Weimar republic, just what the Brexiters,, nationalists and populists want. Welcome to the New World Order...
    You keep spouting your bulltulip....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazdevil View Post
    Labour tending toward remain when most Brexit voters were Labour voters.
    Nope. You're 100% incorrect. Labour voters are mostly remain (65/35 split remain/leave) - this is why Labour voters switched to Lib Dem. Those who stuck with Labour are diehards who would vote red even if they had a policy of killing puppies.

    Quote Originally Posted by tazdevil View Post
    A new party going from zero to winning an election and looking to slingshot forward with crowd pleasing rhetoric.
    The narrative may claim the Brexit party is new, but let's be realistic here, they are just a rebranded 'UKIP'; Farage has been doing this for 20 years, in essence the party is 20 years old

    And you forgot to note that remain votes exceeded leave votes in this election, an election that was a one policy vote. So even when the only policy being talked about was Brexit, the leave vote could not get a majority. The people have spoken, they no longer want Brexit
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    Quote Originally Posted by tazdevil View Post
    So the old order of Conservative, Labour, Liberal The new order of an independent UK or radically changed EU

    Ah, so of the old order, one of them grew, while the others shrank, but that doesn't suit you, so it's easier to lump them all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Ah, so of the old order, one of them grew, while the others shrank, but that doesn't suit you, so it's easier to lump them all together.
    To be fair to Taz, he is as thick as yorkie and vetran's idiot son. Don't expect too much.
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    Nigel Farage has announced that The Brexit party will be challenging the Tories in all constituencies in a future GE, which will "have consequences".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimPrawn View Post
    You keep spouting your bulltulip....
    You wouldn't understand...

    Watching the results of the E.U election.. according to the impartial BBC everybody won, except Labour and conservative who didn't lose..
    The SNP apparently did well in Scotland and Plaid comfe did well in Wales
    Apparently the brexiters also won but as there was only a 37% turnout ,didn't, and as 63% of the population didn't vote for them therefore they didn't want them.. and those that did wanted something else.
    and anyone who voted for another party did so knowing that we wanted to remain, or at least leave with a deal (I don't remember that as an option on the ballot?)
    Apparently Alister Campbell (Labour) and Michael Heseltine (Conservative) voted Liberal, and the Greens have done very well..UKIP haven't done well as all their support went to The Brexit Party, who ended up winning the most seats but not the majority of the votes.
    confused? so am I
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    A bit like the old Weimar republic, just what the Brexiters,, nationalists and populists want. Welcome to the New World Order...

    Looking good Barmy, looking good!

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