The Purge

[Old Greg]

Ah and so the labour party does not have any party members outside of the M25? That's OK then. carry on.

There is no reason to think that inside M25 is a factor. What you said was:

What I take from these graphs is that the labour vote migrated to the Lib dems and Greens ( Remain) whilst the conservative vote migrated to Brexit (Leave)

The chart describes the voting behaviour of party members, not of party voters.

[Yorkie62]

You’ve started off with your own position on where you think people voted, saw that a poll didn’t fit your view, but rather than checking with YouGov or other sources to find out where they sampled for their poll you curve-fitted your own assumptions and anecdotal data to fit your own narrative, thus propagating your own confirmation bias.

Just checked the full article on YOU GOV and they do not indicate where their information came from. I fact their claims are fundamentally flawed, they even state this themselves. On the on hand the state that the majority of political party member will not disclose who they voted for and then claim without stating what percentage of members responded that 41% of Labour party members voted for a party other than Labour. However their own graph shows that 45% of labour party member that responded "say" they Voted labour, 10% say the didn't vote, and 3% refused to say = 58%. therefore 42% of Labour party members that responded voted for a party other than Labour. Their claims assume a 100% response rate. That I cannot believe happened, unless Labour party members are particularly stupid and in a habit of responding to unsolicited anonymous requests for personal data (incl their voting preferences!).

[meridian]

Just checked the full article on YOU GOV and they do not indicate where their information came from. I fact their claims are fundamentally flawed, they even state this themselves. On the on hand the state that the majority of political party member will not disclose who they voted for and then claim without stating what percentage of members responded that 41% of Labour party members voted for a party other than Labour. However their own graph shows that 45% of labour party member that responded "say" they Voted labour, 10% say the didn't vote, and 3% refused to say = 58%. therefore 42% of Labour party members that responded voted for a party other than Labour. Their claims assume a 100% response rate. That I cannot believe happened, unless Labour party members are particularly stupid and in a habit of responding to unsolicited anonymous requests for personal data (incl their voting preferences!).

And yet, somehow, you feel that your unsubstantiated anecdotal data carries more weight and is correct.

Do you see the discrepancy?

[Old Greg]

Just checked the full article on YOU GOV and they do not indicate where their information came from. I fact their claims are fundamentally flawed, they even state this themselves. On the on hand the state that the majority of political party member will not disclose who they voted for and then claim without stating what percentage of members responded that 41% of Labour party members voted for a party other than Labour. However their own graph shows that 45% of labour party member that responded "say" they Voted labour, 10% say the didn't vote, and 3% refused to say = 58%. therefore 42% of Labour party members that responded voted for a party other than Labour. Their claims assume a 100% response rate. That I cannot believe happened, unless Labour party members are particularly stupid and in a habit of responding to unsolicited anonymous requests for personal data (incl their voting preferences!).

Do you understand now how sadly mistaken you were to muddle up voters for a party with party members?

[Yorkie62]

Do you understand now how sadly mistaken you were to muddle up voters for a party with party members?

I'm not muddling up anything. The results just don't stack up to scrutiny.

[Old Greg]

I'm not muddling up anything. The results just don't stack up to scrutiny.

If you're not muddling things up, why were you talking about Labour and Tory voters rather than members?

[meridian]

I'm not muddling up anything. The results just don't stack up to scrutiny.

Do you know what the word “scrutiny” means?

The plural of “anecdote” is not “data”.

[Yorkie62]

Do you know what the word “scrutiny” means?

The plural of “anecdote” is not “data”.

God you are a dick

[Old Greg]

Do you know what the word “scrutiny” means?

The plural of “anecdote” is not “data”.

What we do know is that Yorkie is in a strong position to retain his Cretin of the Year dunce's hat.

[Yorkie62]

If you're not muddling things up, why were you talking about Labour and Tory voters rather than members?

I wasn't nor did I ever user the word VOTERS. I may have used the word VOTE when referring to how party members VOTED, but it was YOU not I that made the link between the word VOTE and VOTERS.

I'll try not to use big words in the future if it helps you understanding.