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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostNo you can't vote against candidates in non-democratic election. Von der Leyen very nearly didn't get voted in. That would not happen in a token election. It's comparable with a confidence vote in Parliament. It isn't assured.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostQuite. My interpretation of "democracy" tends to the view that any democratic vote is a choice between *at least two* candidates. The EU stands alongside Mugabe and a few unsavoury bedfellows in believing that offering a single candidate is that much easier for the proles to understand.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostWhereas the UK will shortly have a leader voted for by 160,000 primarily elderly middle class white men...
At least they have a choice* of 2 candidates.
*No, I agree it's not a great choice, but it's slightly better than being told "it's that or nothing..."His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Then there's these un-elected representatives of the UK democratic process: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-prorogation-boris-johnson-lords-vote_uk_5d2f3b1fe4b0a873f6455727“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View Post(Is that ageist, racist, classist or sexist, or all of the above?)
At least they have a choice* of 2 candidates.
*No, I agree it's not a great choice, but it's slightly better than being told "it's that or nothing..."
Of course they could have had a vote but it wouldn't have changed the result. When Nancy Pelosi was elected Speaker she was the only candidate.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostWhereas the UK will shortly have a leader voted for by 160,000 primarily elderly middle class white men...bloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)Comment
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostA leader who the UK electorate will be able to vote in or out in 34 months at most. Can't say that about any EU leader.
Leyen can actually be removed from office at any time...“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThere was a choice of candidates and no majority for the other ones, so the candidates withdrew.
Of course they could have had a vote but it wouldn't have changed the result. When Nancy Pelosi was elected Speaker she was the only candidate.
We can dance around the "that's the way it works" thing all day and into next week, but is it all really in the spirit of what we understand as democracy?
*Obviously some of you want it, or you wouldn't be so happy to defend her unopposed appointment.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostA leader who the UK electorate will be able to vote in or out in 34 months at most. Can't say that about any EU leader.I'm alright JackComment
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